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Why do you drive the vehicle you do?

#101
Angus said:
The newer Mustangs have a hydraulic assist? I didn't even realize. Mine is the previous generation, and don't have the hydraulic assist, so stage 3's are a pain on the street because they're very off/on and have a much higher than stock pedal pressure.

Dang. I wish mine was hydraulically assisted!!

Turbo'd DOHC 4.6L bored to 5.0L. I keep it at around 10psi for driving around, and it makes ~670rwhp. But it makes 880rwhp at 18psi and a little over 1000rwhp at 25. 10 psi isn't really in the best efficiency range.

Read what I said. If you are looking at it from the perspective of the wheels, reducing a loss is a gain. I don't mean a gain at the engine. You reduce the engine load with the lighter flywheel and hollow DS, but increase the load with the 4.10s and drag radials. That is what I was saying.
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Again, times have changed, 410's are compensated through electronics, and the wheels are actually 2oz. Lighter total package tan the stock 17's and basically the same diameter.
For the bit that is off the computer is also compensating for that as well through programming.

Guys I assure you the car was very well thought out by myself and the guys at Excessive Motorsport's of Manassas Va.
They are some of the best Mustang builders on the East Coast.
They don't work on anything but late model mustangs mid 90's and up.
Anything that was put on the car was clearly thought out and considered Chris (a licensed SCT tuner) from Excessive did the SCT LiveWire tuning, Allen (a several time winning alcohol burning drag car driver/builder) was very involved, as well as Terry (the owner)
These guys know their stuff.
 
#102
"410s are compensated through electronics" doesn't mean anything- that your speedometer is corrected doesn't mean the mechanical realities of shorter gearing are any different. I'm not even sure how this became a disagreement? lol.

Not sure what you mean by "times have changed"- I got myself through college by building and tuning Motec systems for race cars. My mustang is only a couple years older than yours. Gearing is not a new concept.

1SHOT1HIT said:
Guys I assure you the car was very well thought out by myself and the guys at Excessive Motorsport's of Manassas Va.
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Wait, nobody said anything about that. I'm sure it's fine!
 
#103
Angus said:
I lol'd. You really think Mike N is confused by gearing and tire size?

I think you might've missed that the third gear statement was a joke that led into him suggesting you should go to a larger tire.
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I have no clue what Mike N is confused by or not, seeing as how I don't know him from anyone else online. I decided to look past his avatar of a piston and just assume he wasn't aware that this was not anything like an older car.
I did however realize that it was a joke, BUT it's a common joke based off of real issues previously caused by the jokes subject.
410's have a bad rap because of the effect they had on drivability, high RPM's, gas mileage, blah blah blah.
 
#104
Angus said:
"410s are compensated through electronics" doesn't mean anything- that your speedometer is corrected doesn't mean the mechanical realities of shorter gearing are any different. I'm not even sure how this became a disagreement? lol.

Not sure what you mean by "times have changed"- I got myself through college by building and tuning Motec systems for race cars. My mustang is only a couple years older than yours. Gearing is not a new concept.

Wait, nobody said anything about that. I'm sure it's fine!
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Listen, your qualifications are not important, I'm not claiming you to be an idiot, I'm sure you know plenty about cars.

And right gearing is not a new concept, but being able to reprogram for them, is for a lot of guys.
There are plenty of people still out there that are stuck on old school ideology when it comes to it.

Edit: and there is way more done and changed through the ECU than just the speedometer being corrected. That you should be very well aware of.
 
#105
Okay this has gone WAY off topic, Angus if you'd like to continue VIA pm, by all means feel free.

I'd still love to know how I'm loosing anything?

Changing from stock set up to current set up in my opinion has done nothing but eliminate a ton of "lost" HP and helped transfer it to the ground.
 
#106
I'm enjoying reading the back and forth myself. I don't know much at all about drivetrains, motors, and transmissions. I did some mods to my Dodge Ram based on what I read others did to theirs on a Dodge forum. I think it's faster now, but I couldn't explain what I did or why I really did it.

Carry on, please.

-Mike
 
#107
Let's let the thread go back on course- I think he's mostly arguing to things we weren't really saying, so it's sort of moot.

Anyone around drive a Honda Element? I'm curious to hear if their reasoning for why they drive it jives with Adam Carolla's theory that someone who drives an Element is saying "..because I don't care what car I drive."
 
#108
Angus said:
Let's let the thread go back on course- I think he's mostly arguing to things we weren't really saying, so it's sort of moot.

Anyone around drive a Honda Element? I'm curious to hear if their reasoning for why they drive it jives with Adam Carolla's theory that someone who drives an Element is saying "..because I don't care what car I drive."
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My singer has one. It does pack a lot of gear.
 
#109
Another vote for Subi Outback here, we're in a 2001 H6 3.0, and she is great for lugging gear, fairly OK on juice. Ours is about the highest on Km/miles around, sitting at 280,000 K's /173 983 miles on the dial, but she hasn't missed a beat for us yet......*knock on wood*
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<ours is like this one<
we mainly chose her for the upcoming family addition, 'cos the old camry (1993 exec 2.2L) wasn't going to cut it for comfort on long trips with bubs and all.
>here's one like we used to have>
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Mrs T_G loves the extra power in the new girl, and likes to try to get all four wheels spinning if she can from launch (hasn't succeeded yet, bless her she keeps trying lol):bassist:
T_G
 
#110
MJ5150 said:
I'm enjoying reading the back and forth myself. I don't know much at all about drivetrains, motors, and transmissions. I did some mods to my Dodge Ram based on what I read others did to theirs on a Dodge forum. I think it's faster now, but I couldn't explain what I did or why I really did it.

Carry on, please.

-Mike
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Just curious, do you remember what you did?
 
#111
What I do remember.......put in different front and rear gears, added a Superchips programmer, put in some cable to make the truck think it was cooler than it was, changed the thermostat, re-routed some lines for the hot and cold water, then redid the exhaust system to a new cat, muffler, and dumped it at the rear axle.

-Mike
 
#112
MJ5150 said:
What I do remember.......put in different front and rear gears, added a Superchips programmer, put in some cable to make the truck think it was cooler than it was, changed the thermostat, re-routed some lines for the hot and cold water, then redid the exhaust system to a new cat, muffler, and dumped it at the rear axle.

-Mike
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Yeah, I'd say you did more than your average Joe, so you'r definitely doing better than stock.

Hey, what year Ram is it?

I am gassing bad over the new ones, that's one good looking truck.
 
#113
2002 with the 5.9 in it.

I don't really care for the new body style yet. It may take a few years to grow on me. I have so much invested in time and money in this '02, I don't see myself letting it go anytime soon. It would take me another few paragraphs to describe all the cosmetic changes, and interior electronic changes I made. Those I do understand, and did most of them myself. The painting/powdercoating, I left to professionals.

-Mike
 
#114
2009 Mustang GT California Special. Why? Because I really wanted it, could afford it, and got a really good deal on it. Plus it's a blast to drive, especially since I put the new air intake on it and had it custom tuned.
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#118
2006 Ford Explorer V8. It's a company-owned* vehicle, but I've really come to love this thing. For hauling gear, it's great. For hauling a family of 4 with a week worth of stuff for a road trip, it's perfect. The 300hp/300ft-lb motor gets this beast scooting down the road a lot quicker than one would expect. When it's time to replace it, I've will be looking at the new Explorers first.



* Including gas and insurance all paid by my company :hyper:
 

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