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Why go Mac?

Which notebook to go with?

  • MacBook

    Votes: 25 25.3%
  • MacBook Pro

    Votes: 44 44.4%
  • MacBook Air

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Keep the pc notebook you have now.

    Votes: 28 28.3%

  • Total voters
    99
I guess the people I know with Macs and myself have not had reliability issues. I'm not saying you didn't or that there aren't, just that from my experience, they aren't any less reliable than any other machine.

The PC I was forced to use for a couple years worked without issue. Likewise, so has my Mac.
 
The only real reason to switch to mac is if you like the OS better than the other alternatives. I had to work on a PC for years at the university before it died and I was able to replace it with an imac. Either can work...it's all about what you prefer. In my case, I have been strictly a Mac/Honda person for the past decade, since neither my computers or cars have ever broken down and left me hanging, and because I like the feel of both better than the alternatives I've tried. Try both, buy the one that feels right to you for what you need.
 
funny but the the Universities that my son has looked at all had Mac's in their Video/film departments.
Audio, video, photographic publishing and film editing software came out on the Mac before it did on the PC. Probably by many years in some cases. I think this is the primary reason why Macs are so engrained in these fields. In the beginning, they had no choice. Then, probably mostly for compatibility reasons, Mac remained the most popular for these things even when they were supported on the PC.

I think that this is how the whole "artistic mac user" thing started. Apple has exploited this phenomenon to their advantage. One doesn't need to be a real artist, they can just get a Mac and people will think they are. At least, sitting at the tables at Starbucks. It's all about picking up chicks, really.

- Dave
 
+1

i learned how to program on an apple ][e when they were new (still have it, it still boots :D ) and i've tried to remain a fan ever since, but their elitist hubris that cost them the original market share to pc's, and their persistent style-over-substance mentality have made me pretty much disgusted with them.

to me osx is unintuitive and kludgy, and too difficult to work with. i want to know what threads are presently running on my machine, i want to know what is dependant on those threads, and i want to know what machine resources they are using. my g4 doesn't make this knowledge available to me - shoot, i put a disk in the drive and i cannot even find how to access it without opening the frickin itune crap. no thank you - if macs running protools were not the studio standard for recording, i'd not own one. undoubtedly some of my dissatisfaction comes from my own ignorance of the OS, but it didn't take a windows book for me to figure out how to access the registry or the system configuration settings in the control panel.

Check out Activity Monitor to see if that helps you with programs/threads/resource usage. If that doesn't work, there are *NIX CLI tools included too.

I gotta ask, how did you learn about the Windows registry (and how to properly add/edit/delete values) without reading anything? I've had to muck in the registry of my work computer a couple of times and wouldn't recommend that to anyone unless it was a life or death situation and a few backups of the current registry.
 
For me I like OSX better because I can plug anything, and I mean anything, into my computer and it will work. My dad's printer? Worked, My sister's camera? Worked. Ect. Try doing that on a windows machine without installing software or downloading drivers. I have had several windows based machines in the past and every single one of them has had viruses (I run AGV and update daily), freezing problems, and software crashes. My mac on the other hand has frozen twice, once when I tried video editing, photo editing and had garageband running all at the same time and the other time when the harddrive blew up. Once was my fault the other was a hardware malfunction. I also use Office on my mac for the compatibility and it is annoying because it always wants to update and tries to run in the background. That being said, it still runs better on my mac than it ever did on my windows based machine.

lowsound
 
I have had several windows based machines in the past and every single one of them has had viruses (I run AGV and update daily), freezing problems, and software crashes. My mac on the other hand has frozen twice, once when I tried video editing, photo editing and had garageband running all at the same time and the other time when the harddrive blew up. Once was my fault the other was a hardware malfunction. I also use Office on my mac for the compatibility and it is annoying because it always wants to update and tries to run in the background. That being said, it still runs better on my mac than it ever did on my windows based machine.

Strange. One of my close friend runs a graphic business, it's all Mac of course: he's supposedly running 8 stations. I say supposedly because, even thought he bought 8 machines, there always was at least 2 being repaired or worked on since he bought them. Granted they are bottom of the barrel iMac (save one) and not Mac pro tower, but still not a very good track record.

And viruses? I've been using PC's since 1996, never had one. I know they exist, just never caught one nor have I ever met anybody with their PC infected; it's strange thought that it's always the people running Mac who complains about those on Window.

Both PC and Mac are junk; just choose the one that meets your need for the lowest price possible.
 
+1

i learned how to program on an apple ][e when they were new (still have it, it still boots :D ) and i've tried to remain a fan ever since, but their elitist hubris that cost them the original market share to pc's, and their persistent style-over-substance mentality have made me pretty much disgusted with them.

to me osx is unintuitive and kludgy, and too difficult to work with. i want to know what threads are presently running on my machine, i want to know what is dependant on those threads, and i want to know what machine resources they are using. my g4 doesn't make this knowledge available to me - shoot, i put a disk in the drive and i cannot even find how to access it without opening the frickin itune crap. no thank you - if macs running protools were not the studio standard for recording, i'd not own one. undoubtedly some of my dissatisfaction comes from my own ignorance of the OS, but it didn't take a windows book for me to figure out how to access the registry or the system configuration settings in the control panel.

hmm...

honestly, i'm very happy w/ the OS. as for resource loading, there are a few widgets you get for free to tell you resource use.

and in the late 90s, i was all about hacking the registry and doing the whatnot, but frankly, i just want something that works and is stable. and the mac os does just that. i do admit, despite having multiple monitors, it does get annoying having to go back to the main window's menu bar for bookmarks, etc. but in terms of ease of use, nothing windows has done recently even comes close to the mac GUI.
 
Unfortunately, these threads never stay very nice. I will try. I have used a Mac since 1986. In over 20 years, I have had 1 crash where I had to redo everything. I had a backup so I lost about a weeks worth of stuff. I'm not sure why Dave is questioning their reliability any more than a PC. I was forced to use a PC in my office for 2 years. Thank God that this year we were able to choose the platform we wanted for our lease. I hated working on a PC and Windows. I tried. Nothing worked as simply as my Mac. I like it because it just works - at least that has been my experience.

Yeah, have sold out and use MS Office for Mac because you just have to use Word, Excell, etc., but I don't see myself ever using a PC if I have my choice.

+1

if anything, a few days ago, i thought, should i reinstall the mac OS? but why?

then again, i never had to deal with directx games on my mac yet. ;)
 
I'd stay with the PC. I personally think Macs are overpriced pieces of junk that don't even have the same amount of features you could get on a PC for over $1000 less.

I'm sorry man, but that is a very ignorant statement. Obviously you have never owned one... so you really have no idea what you are talking about. :scowl:
But, I'm glad you have a strong opinion. Personally the Mac is what I was weened on... but I have all PC's at work. I prefer my Mac. No big deal.

Oh, and Dave... I avoid Starbucks like the plague. :)
 
Maybe this is the place to ask the assembled Mac-evangelists. At the gig last night, the pianist brought his Apple notebook and we tried recording with Garage Band. Something about the maximum number of measures that it can record caused it to run out of memory and lock up solid, so we had to reboot and lose all of our data.

What did we do wrong?

Admittedly, my last Mac was a decade ago, so I don't know anything about the new gear. I think it boils down to what you want to do. I do very little audio / video work. The things I do for a living and for fun involve software that is overwhelmingly Windows oriented.
 
Maybe this is the place to ask the assembled Mac-evangelists. At the gig last night, the pianist brought his Apple notebook and we tried recording with Garage Band. Something about the maximum number of measures that it can record caused it to run out of memory and lock up solid, so we had to reboot and lose all of our data.

What did we do wrong?

Admittedly, my last Mac was a decade ago, so I don't know anything about the new gear. I think it boils down to what you want to do. I do very little audio / video work. The things I do for a living and for fun involve software that is overwhelmingly Windows oriented.


did he check how much harddrive space he had left? how many tracks? just 2 stereo, or was each instrument being tracked? how much physical ram does his macbook have?
 
I would stick with the PC. I don't think Macs are worth the price you pay for them. I also know that they don't offer anything worthwhile that a PC doesn't.

Well, after looking at some of the features of Keynote (I do A LOT of presentations) I think I'm going to make the jump. I viewed the features videos on apple's website and I have to admit it seems far more powerful than Powerpoint.

Any powerpoint/keynote users out there that know both programs equally well want to shed some light on that? Am I on the mark or not close?
 
Well, after looking at some of the features of Keynote (I do A LOT of presentations) I think I'm going to make the jump. I viewed the features videos on apple's website and I have to admit it seems far more powerful than Powerpoint.

Any powerpoint/keynote users out there that know both programs equally well want to shed some light on that? Am I on the mark or not close?

there's no comparison, keynote is freakin' awesome. powerpoint still looks sooo 1999.
 

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