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Why go Mac?

Which notebook to go with?

  • MacBook

    Votes: 25 25.3%
  • MacBook Pro

    Votes: 44 44.4%
  • MacBook Air

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Keep the pc notebook you have now.

    Votes: 28 28.3%

  • Total voters
    99
Unless you want to run a piece of software that is Mac-only or you just like the OS better, there is no REAL reason to need a Mac. There are few, if any, things that a Mac can do that a PC can't, but there are many things you can do on the PC side that Mac's can't do.

Software is much more abundant on the PC, as is the functionality. You'll be much more prone to picking up viruses and spyware on a PC due to the ubiqutious coding of these nasty programs for the PC platform. Anyone who tells you the Mac is more secure is either lying or doesn't know what they are talking about. Security is a function of the OS, and the security flaws released for Macs easily prooves they aren't more secure. Of course, you are less likely to ever come in contact with a virus written for Mac sinc emost virus coders want to write a virus that actually have the chance to due some damage. With the small marketshare Mac's have, it would be a waste of their time to write for Mac. It does still happen though, so you should be careful either way. I know people who don't run anti-x on their Macs, and they're prideful about it. Stoopid if you ask me.

I've not had a virus ever on a PC. Just educate yourself a bit about things, and don't insall every freaking program that pops up for you to install. All that spyware takes up memory and CPU cycles, slowing your machine down while opening up back doors for other more destructive things.

But please, if you do go Mac, try to be a dignant Mac user and not get all prideful over something as silly as a computer. Mac users are cool by me, but way too many of them have turned it into some kind of freakish cult. Don't let 'em suck you in.
 
either macbook or macbook pro are great.

here's the bottom line, if you do audio or video recording or editing, Mac's are superior.

welcome to the mac club:)

That's simply not true. I make a living doing video editing/compositing/3d design. I use a PC. As does every production studio I've ever been in. In reality, PCs are just as good, if not better, for video work.
 
Software is much more abundant on the PC, as is the functionality.

The first part of this is true - there are MORE programs for the PC.

I'd ask you to explain or present evidence to the second point, as I don't believe it's true. Sure there are MORE crappy photoedit packages for the PC, but the Photoshop runs on both, and iPhoto/Aperture is Mac only - where is the extra PC functionality? Not at a package level.

At an OS level the Unix core of Mac DOES provide more functionality, and security.

Ian
 
The first part of this is true - there are MORE programs for the PC.

I'd ask you to explain or present evidence to the second point, as I don't believe it's true. Sure there are MORE crappy photoedit packages for the PC, but the Photoshop runs on both, and iPhoto/Aperture is Mac only - where is the extra PC functionality? Not at a package level.

At an OS level the Unix core of Mac DOES provide more functionality, and security.

Ian
I do this for a living. PC's run the world, not Macs. Unix does not provide more functionality, nor does it provide more security. I'd say the security issue tips one way or the other depending on the year. REAL Unix/Linus has some security advantages just because of the ability to strip down the core and compile just the components you need. That's not a feature of Macs, so the security argument there is a wash. You are less likely to get a virus on a Mac because there are fewer being written. That's not a product of OS, but a fringe benefit because of the lack of Mac proliferation.

Invariably this discussion comes up with Mac fanatics. No doubt their are some great consumer products for Macs, but that's where most of the argument begins. Mac may be in the professional world in audio and graphics design, and into the commercial video editing arena. But that's about where it ends. Macs aren't in the professional video arena like many Mac people believe, and as another user here has already noted. When you get into the high end editing, you won't be on a Mac or a PC.

There isn't a single functionality that a Mac has that a PC doesn't. Naming some iWhatever program doesn't count. For every Mac-only program there are a 100's of PC-only programs.
 
I'd say this also is vice-versa. There isn't many things you couldn't do on a Mac if you wanted to, and I do believe that an average user would benefit from the stability of the OS X platform.
There are many thing you can't do on a Mac. Just a casual look at the games available for Mac vs. PC. Educational software for children is much more scarce on Mac. Development tools. There's lots of functionality that's harder to come by on a Mac. The biggest functionalitiy you lose often on a Mac is the abilty to have a choice in what you run.

The average user...I hear this argument often. Who is that? The person who browses the internet and uses email? You can do that on an internet appliance, so perhaps that's the answer, not a Mac. I can't tell you the number of people I've known who've bought into the "it just works" kool-aid, went out and bought a Mac, and are sorely disappointed in the whole experience. An unintuitive interface that they have to relearn is usually the first put off. Sure you can learn it, but for all the claims of how easy it is, most people don't find this to be the case, and there are independent studies out there that prove this. Outside of my professional IT background, I'm an average home user. I browse the net, use email, play video games, dabble with web pages, etc. I get more functionality out of a PC than I do a Mac. And I don't have system crashes, viruses, spyware issues...nothing. I run an average anti-x application that protects me just fine. I don't worry about it.

And the Mac OS is not more stable than a properly configured and maintained Windows system. The people who complain about Windows are usually the same people who download ever widget and free piece of crap that's out there and install it. Their system trays span halfway across the taskbar, and then they want to complain that Windows is the problem. It's like overloading a pickup truck so that the axle snaps and then blaming Ford. Stoopid. Or they buy some crappy eMachine and want to blame Windows.

Macs are cool, I won't say they aren't, and Apple does have the unique position of being able to control their software and hardware. I have no problems with Macs whatsoever. But it is a bit of a pet peeve of mine when they get praises which aren't really deserved, and the stability thing is one of them.

If Mac were better, they would be the number one brand. They would be running the business desktop, the business servers, etc. If they were so stable, they would be running critical life care systems. I've done consulting work in hospitals for over 10 years, and I've seen XP boxes keeping patients alive, running dialysis machines, pumping blood through a person who's waiting on a heart transplant. Stability is of a critical nature. Life and death.
 
That's simply not true. I make a living doing video editing/compositing/3d design. I use a PC. As does every production studio I've ever been in. In reality, PCs are just as good, if not better, for video work.

I agree with that, but I don't think that is true on the amateur level. I Movie, I DVD, Garage Band, I Photo and I-Tunes are so seamless intergraded that it makes all of the above easy enough that kids can be making professional recordings, movies etc with in an hour. I don't see that on a PC???

I Movie is just drag & drop, it can't get any easier, want songs, just click media and it opens your Garage Band & I tunes libraries. Want to add pictures, just click on add photos and your whole photo library is there. What PC program does this?

I can't say that about using pro programs like Avid, Pro Tools & Final Cut for Mac Or PC where they are equally hard/complicated.

That's the difference between Macs & PC to me
 
Personally I wouldn't want a PC keeping me alive. LOL
If you ever go into the hospital and need it, that's exactly what will be happening. NEVER even heard of Mac's doing such things. There are 10's of thousands of people being kept alive by such systems everyday, with no problems.

barkless dog said:
I Movie is just drag & drop, it can't get any easier, want songs, just click media and it opens your Garage Band & I tunes libraries. Want to add pictures, just click on add photos and your whole photo library is there. What PC program does this?
All of them that I know of. My Music, My Video, same exact thing. Click on the video, and it opens the application. Plug in your camera, and it opens Picasa, Adobe, whatever. Same thing.

I Movie, I DVD, Garage Band, I Photo and I-Tunes are so seamless intergraded that it makes all of the above easy
Another pet peeve of mine. A few years ago, Apples was blasting MS for integrating everything and stiffling the industry. Now Apple is claiming that their integration is what makes their systems so good. More kool-aid, please.

And Apple will likely never face a lawsuit over integrating such products, but if MS made Windows Movie Maker compete with iDVD (which they easily could), then you can bet that there would be a lawsuit the next day from all the 3rd party companies who currently provide those features.
 
Maybe this is the place to ask the assembled Mac-evangelists. At the gig last night, the pianist brought his Apple notebook and we tried recording with Garage Band. Something about the maximum number of measures that it can record caused it to run out of memory and lock up solid, so we had to reboot and lose all of our data.

What did we do wrong?

Admittedly, my last Mac was a decade ago, so I don't know anything about the new gear. I think it boils down to what you want to do. I do very little audio / video work. The things I do for a living and for fun involve software that is overwhelmingly Windows oriented.

We record our shows quick and dirty with Garage band. What we do is take a line out of our mixer. It only records one channel. It works ok. The final product is ok for practice purposes. I might be able to create some clips for myspace from it (especially since we don't have any right now :scowl:). I wouldn't recommend garageband for recording to more than one track though.
 
And Apple will likely never face a lawsuit over integrating such products, but if MS made Windows Movie Maker compete with iDVD (which they easily could), then you can bet that there would be a lawsuit the next day from all the 3rd party companies who currently provide those features.

Good point.

I still think Keynote will work better for my presentations. Seems a bit more powerful.

Oh...and my kid likes Photobooth on my parents' mac, so, yet another reason to buy one:smug:
 
Check out Activity Monitor to see if that helps you with programs/threads/resource usage. If that doesn't work, there are *NIX CLI tools included too.

I gotta ask, how did you learn about the Windows registry (and how to properly add/edit/delete values) without reading anything? I've had to muck in the registry of my work computer a couple of times and wouldn't recommend that to anyone unless it was a life or death situation and a few backups of the current registry.

my registry exploits are legend! :D no seriously, i learned by a combination of being very careful, observing what existing programs modified, and making (sometimes grievous) mistakes.
 
Good god me neither. :eek:

But they DO! Everyday!
It's not the PC, it's the PC user that's dangerous!

Macs have more idiocy-protection, and that's what a lot of people look for. I have one 'cause I feel more at ease on it, the OS pleases me more, and very importantly the client is reassured when he sees a slick shiny glossy white machine working with me.

But I will never underestimate the power of properly used PCs.
 
Good point.

I still think Keynote will work better for my presentations. Seems a bit more powerful.

Oh...and my kid likes Photobooth on my parents' mac, so, yet another reason to buy one:smug:
See, personally, if you have children, I think it makes better sense to get them used to a Windows machine. Unless they wind up in graphic design or audio, that's what they'll be using. Windows skills are essential in most any workplace, and they'll likely be on Windows machines throughout grade school, jr high and high school.
 

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