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Why is Fender so Popular?

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Actually it wasn't the first. Paul H. Tutmarc beat Fender by about 15 years with his Audiovox #736.

Fender was the first commercially successful electric bass, but even it got off to a slow start.

I don't think the music world was quite ready for it when Tutmarc introduced his electric bass ca 1935 and he didn't have the facilities for larger scale manufacturing and distribution. So lack of any real demand coupled with little supply resulted in oblivion for the Audiovox #736 until recently.

here's a link. hopefully you can read german! if not just look at the pictures:)
wish i could play one of these just to check it out!
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Actually it wasn't the first. Paul H. Tutmarc beat Fender by about 15 years with his Audiovox #736.

Fender was the first commercially successful electric bass, but even it got off to a slow start.

I don't think the music world was quite ready for it when Tutmarc introduced his electric bass ca 1935 and he didn't have the facilities for larger scale manufacturing and distribution. So it seems that lack of any real demand coupled with little supply resulted in oblivion for the Audiovox #736 until recently.

Thanks for the lesson.:)
 
im probbolly gonna get flamed for this cause fender has a new line with a bigger bridge and new paint or some BS, but yea, lakland uses the same body types. ANd they are modeled after fenders... but thats not really the point the original poster made. Why is it lakland can so easily improve on fender by making them more similar to fenders old basses... when fenders previous to the instruments were so minimal and clearly inferior to thier old product. I just cant help but feel like you are in fact paying for the name... the always seem 10 steps behind which is sad because they were the original inovators. Active basses come out and hit big... they add a S1 switch with minimal tone minipulation, 5 strings become popular... a year or two later start offering models with some weak B string and very limited selection. Bridges get more mass, fender throws on a door braket lol. Like the sheer fact that like 90% of you who buy fenders mod somthing says somthing IMO.
 
im probbolly gonna get flamed for this cause fender has a new line with a bigger bridge and new paint or some BS, but yea, lakland uses the same body types. ANd they are modeled after fenders... but thats not really the point the original poster made. Why is it lakland can so easily improve on fender by

<Luddite rant> Stopped reading right there, bud!

How do you improve on a Fender? That thar graphite reinforcement Lakland uses just sucks all the tone right out of the bass, and them poly finishes keep the wood from breathing. And Abigail Eye-barra don't wind Lakland's pickups, now, does she? And don't get me started about that thick, heavy bridge... That Dean Lakland dude is just like all the other morans who brought us them zingy roundwound strings and 6-string coffee table-lookin', autoharp-soundin' wannabe geetars. Gimme a P-Bass and an SVT every time. Hell, all th' money's in th' first three frets, anyhow... buuurrrrrp </Luddite rant>
 
Since this thread is ground zero for blanket statements, I might as well make one. Most likely, IME, etc. people who say Fender sucks... do.
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Because I can't really see a competent bassist making that statement. Seriously. I don't use Fenders as my main basses and I have a non-Fender jazz type bass (a German one at that) that I'd grab before my Fenders but that doesn't make the Fender any less than what it is... still an excellent bass.

As to why Fender is so popular, it's funny as heck that people choose to ignore the most obvious answer... because people actually like them. Duh. If I didn't have my other basses I could be and was perfectly happy with my Jazz basses. They gave me a sound I didn't get with any of the supposedly super jazzes out there.

If the sound of a Fender is what you seek, there's an easy way to get it. Get one.

BTW I didn't buy my Fenders because I saw everyone playing them... I bought them in spite of that.
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im probbolly gonna get flamed for this cause fender has a new line with a bigger bridge and new paint or some BS, but yea, lakland uses the same body types. ANd they are modeled after fenders... but thats not really the point the original poster made. Why is it lakland can so easily improve on fender by making them more similar to fenders old basses... when fenders previous to the instruments were so minimal and clearly inferior to thier old product. I just cant help but feel like you are in fact paying for the name... the always seem 10 steps behind which is sad because they were the original inovators. Active basses come out and hit big... they add a S1 switch with minimal tone minipulation, 5 strings become popular... a year or two later start offering models with some weak B string and very limited selection. Bridges get more mass, fender throws on a door braket lol. Like the sheer fact that like 90% of you who buy fenders mod somthing says somthing IMO.

Do you realize when Fender came out with active basses, three band EQs and low B's that (unfortunately) if you know how to play can sound quite good?

It's been a few years, to say the least. The funny thing is that you're criticizing them for not jumping on the hype bandwagon as so many others did. That door bracket bridge you complained about works fine for many people. It holds the strings securely and intonates fine. The more mass crap crowd loves to harp on that but you add a higher mass bridge to a Fender and you typically change the SOUND. If the sound is what you wanted, why mess with it... so you can smile at your supposedly superior beefy bridge?

The sheer fact that so many people mod Fenders shows one clear thing... that people have Fenders to mod. Now how many of that percentage that you most likely made up are HAPPY with those mods?:D People always think they can improve on things by modding, that hardly makes it wise or right. For example, for some who want a "better" B string? How about practicing?:eyebrow:. They'd likely be surprised at how many B strings can be "fixed" without changing a thing on the bass.

Bitching about gear is usually a sign of something totally unrelated to the gear IME.
 
As to why Fender is so popular, it's funny as heck that people choose to ignore the most obvious answer... because people actually like them.

But do people like them because they're Fenders or do they like them because that's what's available in that style at the price?

I'm referring to the fact that FMIC's pretty much cornered the market on instruments of that style in the price range of about $300 (including Squier here) to about $1200. Yamaha doesn't make a bass in that style, nor does Peavey, Cort, Samick, you get the pic. They all have oddly-shaped basses with the same pickup configs, but not the same body shape, and not necessarily with the same pickup placement. So if you're looking for the combination of all those things in a new instrument within that range and you have no building skills (Allparts/Musikraft/USACG/Warmoth), Fender's your best bet.
 
This thread and the countless others identical to it proves two things:

1. Drummers don't have a corner on the stupidity market

2. Singers don't have a corner on the insecurity market

People who feel the need to say things like "Fenders are only popular because some people can't think for themselves" or "because it was the first" and then they trumpet their choice of bass like they're a genius are stupid and insecure and need to prop themselves up at someone else's expense. One of these days, every single person who said something stupid like that will be humbled by someone playing a Fender, or even a cheaper and crappier bass. Then and only them will they grasp the ridiculousness of their lack of knowledge.

The genius (or lack of it) is in your playing, not your equipment. I suggest you pipe down, go practice until you get good enough to not be so insecure, and quit busting our stones.
 
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