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Why Is Internet Outrage So Popular?

If person A is given two choices...
Be "gaysumowrestler3000" or your real name of "Bob McBitchin",
Gaysumowrestler3000 is going to post with brazen anonymity.
"Bob McBitchin" using his real name, is far less likely to be so brazen.
Years ago Ken Smith was one of the more notorious "banned for life" TBers.
When he started his own site, one of his rules was "you must use your real full name which will be verified".
Kens corner is therefore one of the most well behaved (and boring) bulletin boards on the internet.

Ken was an ass, though. I remember someone related a story about being at a NAMM show and Ken not letting him play one of his basses due to the poster having a pick. Ken didn't want him to potentially scratch the bass. That's fair enough, IMO. However, after the poster related that story, Ken came on and said something along the lines of how it was like a Porsche salesperson sizing up a person before letting them take a car for a test drive. I completely wrote the guy off after that. I was using his strings at the time and never bought another set after that.

I'm from Pennsylvania and have a friend whose wife called Ken to ask if he gave tours of the shop. It was for him and his twin brother's 40th birthday. Ken was a complete douche about it. He simply could have said, "Thank you for inquiring, but we normally don't do tours." Instead, my friend and his brother took a tour of the Martin shop and had a great experience.

For the record, Gard gave me a tour of the Roscoe shop when I lived in NC, and that was awesome. :bassist:
 
Seeing a physical manifestation of the words that exist inside our head can be intoxicating and even empowering. Those that can foresee, and care about what happens when those words are released beyond the grey matter and the thickness of their skin will edit them before they release them to the world wide audience. More often than not that kind of foresight takes experience. Wisdom. So it is no surprise that the preponderance of "trolling" and vitriol are from young people. Often times they don't seem to realize the import of what they type, they just go for the most outlandish thing possible and do so with no regard for effect beyond attention. Attention, good or bad is seen as equal. ( actually bad is a stronger trigger than good... but that is another psych article for another time :D )

I've ran into quite a few older guys on the internet who would do the same thing - only I don't think it was for attention so much as to try and shout people down into accepting their negative views. The more you resist the negativity, the meaner the words become until they're straight up personal attacks.

It seems that in today's social climate, it has not only become acceptable, but encouraged, to not just hate someone's opinion, but to hate the person themselves for having said opinion. Then go bond with your friends on facebook over how much "those people" are total scum and need to be killed or deported or whatever.
 
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It seems that in today's social climate, it has not only become acceptable, but encouraged, to not just hate someone's opinion, but to hate the person themselves for having said opinion. Then go bond with your friends on facebook over how much "those people" are total scum and need to be killed or deported or whatever.
With the exception of the bond on facebook part, this sounds exactly what I've read in every history and sociology book. I find young people doing a lot of group hating on FB myself.
 
I've ran into quite a few older guys on the internet who would do the same thing - only I don't think it was for attention so much as to try and shout people down into accepting their negative views. The more you resist the negativity, the meaner the words become until they're straight up personal attacks.

It seems that in today's social climate, it has not only become acceptable, but encouraged, to not just hate someone's opinion, but to hate the person themselves for having said opinion. Then go bond with your friends on facebook over how much "those people" are total scum and need to be killed or deported or whatever.
And then be banished forever. This is why Facebook is always overwhelmingly positive and if you post anything that can be even mildly considered negative, you are basically that bad person . Then, because everybody these days has such an abundance of friends on Facebook you are easily eliminated as a commodity and not a person anymore.
 
With the exception of the bond on facebook part, this sounds exactly what I've read in every history and sociology book. I find young people doing a lot of group hating on FB myself.

Well, that's true. I'm not talking about our long history of having dicks among us, though. I'm talking about the ability to do it in a way that the whole world sees you being a dick and the encouragement from other dicks to do just that.

And then be banished forever. This is why Facebook is always overwhelmingly positive and if you post anything that can be even mildly considered negative, you are basically that bad person . Then, because everybody these days has such an abundance of friends on Facebook you are easily eliminated as a commodity and not a person anymore.

I don't have a facebook page, so I'm not as privvy as I could be. I've over-the-shoulder read stuff on other peoples' pages and it usually looked like a group of trolls all baiting each other with maybe one person pleading for reason to prevail.
 
I don't have a facebook page, so I'm not as privvy as I could be. I've over-the-shoulder read stuff on other peoples' pages and it usually looked like a group of trolls all baiting each other with maybe one person pleading for reason to prevail.

I'm not on FB either, but for some reason that sounds strangely familiar... Oh right. Because internet. And people.