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Why is there a flag on my avatar in the messages?

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I was wondering how this would be received. Thanks for all the feedback.

So this is easily toggled off, but the purpose was to put a flag on the avatar only in PM's, as an added security feature to screen potential buyers of classified items.

The flag is not dependent on the user's profile but comes directly from the users connection. So, if you have a bass for sale and someone pms you claiming to be from country x or ship to country x, and the flag shows country z, that can raise a red flag for the seller.

Whether or not this is useful or not, or worth the potential privacy issues is up for discussion. Note that the ONLY time your country is shared, is if you send a pm to a TalkBass member.

I can also post a new poll regarding this.
IP filters based on region do a poor job at accomplishing such.

this is well known in the computer security. It is very easy to look like you're coming from somewhere else.

Also, this is a privacy thing for posters. Maybe we don't want people to know where we happen to be posting from when on travel.

All in all good intent but poor execution and 2 scoops of blowback.

Please disable the feature.
 
Hmm...

This was a few weeks ago. Only users who fill in their locations gets the flag and in my case just the country abbreviation. The person in this example did not fill in their location, so the "US" overlay did not show. In the other forums I go to, it is their by default even on posts and is based on your IP it seems.

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I was wondering how this would be received.
With all due respect Paul, given the fact that people have been warned, TO'd, and some permanently banned for political discussions and content elsewhere on this board, the precedent established by TB's standing policies seem like that's a question that could/should have answered itself.

Curiosity is all well and good, but in the context of the board as a purposely (allegedly) apolitical forum, the detriment is greater than any possible benefit.
 
Gotta admit, this entire discussion really surprises me. Simply being from a given country is NOT a political statement, it's simply a fact...one's citizenship. I'm proud to be an American, and have been during every administration of my almost 65 years on the planet, including the last one and the current one. Mistakes are made, and we try and do better. It's a great country with much to offer geographically, folks of all kinds, and a host of other positives. I've been to Mexico, France, Italy, and Canada, and can certainly see why anyone would take pride in hailing from those wonderful places. Every country has positives, and every country is flawed. So what. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take pride in your country, or at least acknowledge your citizenship.

If one hates their country so much that one won't admit publicly that they are from there.....move.
 
If one hates their country so much that they won't admit publicly that they are from there.....move.
I don't disagree with your overall sentiments, Muse, but I'll clarify something from my own perspective, at least: The issue is not necessarily about "hating" one's country; It's about being required to make such statements - or in this case, having them made for us - without the benefit of being given the choice to do so. Just as an example, I have voted in every election for which I've ever been qualified to do so, and am proud of my own "attendance record" in that regard. That said, I'm also free to decline the "I voted" sticker they hand out before I leave, as I consider it a superfluous gesture that is simply not necessary to make.

Now, if they had someone at the door forcing those stickers onto our persons as we left? That's a different matter entirely. That's not patriotism; That's forced compliance.

So it's not about pride or authenticity. It's about the choice of what to - or not to - display as part of one's chosen visual identity on the board.

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Gotta admit, this entire discussion really surprises me. Simply being from a given country is NOT a political statement, it's simply a fact...one's citizenship. I'm proud to be an American, and have been during every administration of my almost 65 years on the planet, including the last one and the current one. Mistakes are made, and we try and do better. It's a great country with much to offer geographically, folks of all kinds, and a host of other positives. I've been to Mexico, France, Italy, and Canada, and can certainly see why anyone would take pride in hailing from those wonderful places. Every country has positives, and every country is flawed. So what. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take pride in your country, or at least acknowledge your citizenship.

If one hates their country so much that one won't admit publicly that they are from there.....move.
Surely you understand there's a difference between acknowledging or 'admitting' where you're from and having a flag involuntarily attached to your messages on a site that allows you to hide/share your location based on your preference?

And there's a difference between telling people where you're from and sporting an American flag. If you've lived in this country for 65 years, you'd have to be oblivious to miss how the context of 'flag waving' has evolved (devolved?) over the years.
 
Surely you understand there's a difference between acknowledging or 'admitting' where you're from and having a flag involuntarily attached to your messages on a site that allows you to hide/share your location based on your preference?

And there's a difference between telling people where you're from and sporting an American flag. If you've lived in this country for 65 years, you'd have to be oblivious to miss how the context of 'flag waving' has evolved (devolved?) over the years.

I agree but unfortunately I think you're trying to have a nuanced conversation with the folks that feel personally attacked if someone "doesn't like my flag" (because it's a symbol they identify with), to immediately ask "gee since when flags are political symbols?".

They are either having a discussion in bad faith, or they're too thick to get it. In either case, sadly you're just wasting your time, I'd ignore and move on.
 
Holy goodness.

A feature that meant to help sellers to see someones location incase they are trying to scam has blown up a stupid crazy discussion. I have pretty much quit all social media for this reason with the algorithms and such. Mods please close this thread before it blows up more.

Anyway before its close... what's y'all favorite pastry? I'm looking forward to March for the Zeppole di San Giuseppe.... 😋
 
I agree but unfortunately I think you're trying to have a nuanced conversation with the folks that feel personally attacked if someone "doesn't like my flag" (because it's a symbol they identify with), to immediately ask "gee since when flags are political symbols?".

Speaking for myself, none of the above has anything to do with anything I said. I said I was surprised by this conversation, not that I (nor anyone else) felt "personally attacked."....I don't. Flags are symbols of one's nationality/citizenship, not of one's political beliefs. Each country has one flag. There are CERTAINLY a lack of unified political stances for each country, yet those various political factions don't have their own flags. Therefore the flag is not a political statement.

They are either having a discussion in bad faith, or they're too thick to get it.
Beautiful. The same old tired trope; "If you don't see it my way, you're either stupid or disingenuous."
 
Surely you understand there's a difference between acknowledging or 'admitting' where you're from and having a flag involuntarily attached to your messages on a site that allows you to hide/share your location based on your preference?

And there's a difference between telling people where you're from and sporting an American flag. If you've lived in this country for 65 years, you'd have to be oblivious to miss how the context of 'flag waving' has evolved (devolved?) over the years.
Can't really assume any amount of logic and reasoning these days. Given his statement, I don't think he understands the difference.
Oblivious is right! Well said, my man!
 
Beautiful. The same old tired trope; "If you don't see it my way, you're either stupid or disingenuous."
How's that different from "if you don't like my flag, then you need to move"?
Don't answer that. I'm sure you'll come up with some bizarre reasoning to support how people that don't see things like you hate america but yet that's totally different than "the same old tired trope" you wrote down.
 
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