I also use a WMD Super Fatman because of the massive amount of control it has (LP/BP/HP, blend, blend phase, and LOTS of range on everything)
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Why isn't there a fuzzy envelope pedal with fat synth characteristics?
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BSW has a fat synthy fuzz sound when (if my memory serves me right) you set knobs left to right min, 10-11 o'clock, min, mode 4.
Or you can use its octave effect (same settings, mode 7) with a fuzz pedal.
I own all kinds of fuzz/envelope combinations, and like quite a few of them. Although one can't account for variations in personal tastes, I've had great results with the EHX Bassballs (and the Mooer Sweeper, a clone), the Digitech Synth Wah/Bass Synth Wah, the Ibanez SB7, EHX Micro Synth, the non-synth modes of the Boss SYB-5, and so on.
In some ways, this little exchange makes me wonder how much usage people give a piece of equipment before they rule it out. I've been involved in quite a few discussions with people who immediately put down what they think of as "digital" just because of their preconceptions....
In some ways, this little exchange makes me wonder how much usage people give a piece of equipment before they rule it out. I've been involved in quite a few discussions with people who immediately put down what they think of as "digital" just because of their preconceptions....
this had me scratching my head too, the EHX BMS is analog and absolutely killer, I do use an eq to bump the bottom end a bit, but what a beast of a pedal.
Agreed. I always have to put gear through personal paces, so I buy/borrow a couple of the top pedals and start working them. Music store dicking around isn't really enough.
The most analog synth bass sound that exists is... an analog bass synth! I have a Minimoog and a Moog Source and new and old Taurus pedals. So, I do know what that sound is like first hand and IMO no bass guitar w a pedal is going to get to close to that depth.
However, you can get the 'sorta' version with a pedal, one that hints at those kind of artifacts and having had a bunch of them I still think the most interesting (and rank) one is the EH BMS. I have an old one but I understand that the new ones are just as good... and yes they are analog.
I think the whole digital = bad argument is completely flawed. It should be about sound (and versatility/build quality/value etc) not weather or not the signal is converted to digital. Ultimately most music gets converted to digital anyway when recorded/broadcast etc. So that awsome analog sound people hear on a CD, MP3 (very lossy format btw), on the radio or on YouTube has been converted to digital at some stage.
I recently acquired an Infanem Second Voice with exp mod and it REALLY adds some synth-like tones to my chain
When I said analog, I was talking more about sound than what it actually is. I'm looking for that old raw analog fat synth sound that we all have heard so many times on 70s funk songs (and modern songs) where they use synth rather than bass. So instead of me having to drag a keyboard along to every gig, I can just rely on the pedal. I've tried the BMS and it does not get that sound. Can someone point me to a few funky songs that have been recorded with the bass player using the BMS thoughout the whole song without any straight bass on another track? I'd be interested in hearing a song like that.
The OP is going to want to add and octave down in front of the fuzz/filter (thought the BMS will do this already) because most of the big fat synth bass sounds he's thinking of are stacked-octave sounds. That may be what's been missing.
Of course, the amp and filter envelope (not to mention velocity) controls are what gives big fat bass synth notes their definition. THAT is a lot trickier to accomplish with just an envelope filter or a combo of pedals, or ANYTHING that starts with big fat bass strings. Them's the breaks!
Of course, the amp and filter envelope (not to mention velocity) controls are what gives big fat bass synth notes their definition. THAT is a lot trickier to accomplish with just an envelope filter or a combo of pedals, or ANYTHING that starts with big fat bass strings. Them's the breaks!
Did you try the newer 9v BMS or the old school 24v big box version? I own the 24v and have tried the 9v hoping it sounded the same because it would have taken up way less room on by board. The 24v sounds waaaay fatter. I have easily dialed in thick Doors and Wolfmother like tones out of it. Sounds great through my SVT cl as well as my GK mb fusion.
+1 Talking about sound is like dancing about architecture. The best way to find the sound you are after might be to post clips. People here might even know the exact equipment used in the clips. Unfortunately a lot of the time the answer to 'What effect is used to make the synth sound in this clip?' is 'an actual synth'
