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Why isn't there a fuzzy envelope pedal with fat synth characteristics?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by u84six, Jul 10, 2013.

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  1. Jul 10, 2013 #1
    u84six

    u84six Don't panic, the bass player is here! Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2006
    US
    Isn't this a general sound effect that a lot of bass players want? I know I do! I'm really surprised that no one makes a single pedal just for that specific sound. I've tried all sorts of combinations with fuzz pedals, evelopes, etc, and can never get it right. And it can be quite expensive trying it that way. I wish someone would just make the darn pedal! :)
     
  2. Jul 10, 2013 #2
    Jason Hall

    Jason Hall

    Jun 21, 2012
    Fort Wayne, IN
    The closest thing I've heard to that sound is a red ripper. There's videos of it where it gets a synthy, envelope filtery kind of fuzzy sound with the r.i.p. knob... other than that I got nothin. (p.s. I want a red ripper sometime :p)
     
  3. Jul 10, 2013 #3
    PaulieBe

    PaulieBe Supporting Member

    Jun 25, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Electro Harmonix Bass Micro Synth? I mean Electro Harmonix Bass Micro Synth!!!

    Have had mine for 25 years. It is fat and funky. Pretty raw tho if you are looking for clean and modern.
     
  4. Jul 10, 2013 #4
    Downunderwonder

    Downunderwonder

    Aug 26, 2009
    New Zealand
    Mooer Sweeper.
     
  5. Jul 10, 2013 #5
    u84six

    u84six Don't panic, the bass player is here! Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2006
    US
    Looking for clean but analog. I've heard the microsynth, and while it comes close to the idea, it just doesn't have the fatness, fuzz, and analog synth sound I'm looking. I really don't think pedal like this exists. Maybe it's just too difficult design.
     
  6. Jul 10, 2013 #6
    u84six

    u84six Don't panic, the bass player is here! Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2006
    US
    Nah, that just sounds like a typical filter that has high octaves and quacks like a duck. I already have one.
     
  7. Jul 10, 2013 #7
    Jason Hall

    Jason Hall

    Jun 21, 2012
    Fort Wayne, IN
    There's a couple fuzz envelope filters that sound synthy too... EHX Bass Enigma Q Balls and Fuzzrocious Terrodactyl. I had the Q Balls for a while, I miss it.
     
  8. Jul 10, 2013 #8
    hamfistUK

    hamfistUK

    Mar 6, 2012
    Southampton, UK
    Yes the Q balls is a great pedal, often overlooked in boutique-obsessed circles.
     
  9. Jul 10, 2013 #9
    deucejanisch

    deucejanisch

    Oct 27, 2010
    Would the prunes and custard fall into this category?
     
  10. Jul 10, 2013 #10
    Tim_Mofunk

    Tim_Mofunk

    May 20, 2012
    Adelaide, Australia
    But the Bass Micro Synth IS Analog. (and it does sound fat.)

    Chunk Systems Octavius Squeezer (Yes... it IS analog too.)
    http://www.chunksystems.com/sounds/os_DoubleChin.mp3
     
  11. Jul 10, 2013 #11
    MightyMiloQuinn

    MightyMiloQuinn

    Dec 21, 2012
    Concord, NH
    Digitech Bass Synth Wah?
     
  12. Jul 10, 2013 #12
    Downunderwonder

    Downunderwonder

    Aug 26, 2009
    New Zealand
    Not so much. It's more distortion than modulation but the modulation is very cool.
     
  13. Jul 10, 2013 #13
    Bigwan

    Bigwan

    Feb 22, 2002
    Ballymena (hey)
    OP can you point us to an example of the sound you're talking about?
     
  14. Jul 10, 2013 #14
    Crater

    Crater

    Oct 12, 2011
    Dallas, TX area
    I have the "Tone-Lok" version of the Ibanez Bass SB7 bass synth. Basically an envelope filter with a two switchable fuzzes. I'm not crazy about it, I find the sounds tend to be too thin and trebly for a 'bass pedal'. The controls are quite touchy and interactive, it takes a while to dial in.

    It's out of production but there are many available on the used market for under a hundred dollars.

    Here's a demo video, not mine, but it's good reproduction of how this box sounds.

     
  15. Jul 10, 2013 #15
    RCCollins

    RCCollins

    Mar 23, 2008
    San Diego, California
    Yup. It is VERY well-designed and flexible, and does exactly what the OP wants. And it can be had quite affordably, used. I need to pick one up again. Nothing beats it in the price range, that's for sure...
     
  16. Jul 10, 2013 #16
    sillyfabe

    sillyfabe keeping the low-end silly since '06

    Mar 13, 2009
    San Bernardino,CA
    here is what I use with great results:

    synth-modded Boss OC-2 is usually run into the following:

    Tech 21 Red Ripper
    Fuzzrocious Terrordactyl
    (with OC-2 synth mod on) WMD Super Fatman
    EHX H.O.G. (in filter mode)
     
  17. Jul 10, 2013 #17
    gregmon79

    gregmon79 Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2012
    Chicago IL
    uuuuuhhhh, the EHX bass balls (sovtek version, black and blue) is just that buddy,.
     
  18. Jul 10, 2013 #18
    u84six

    u84six Don't panic, the bass player is here! Supporting Member

    Nov 8, 2006
    US
    I can see how this might come close to what I'm looking for. Maybe we can sample the output of our pedal board and send it to a pedal builder and ask "can you make a pedal that does this?". :)
     
  19. Jul 10, 2013 #19
    MatticusMania

    MatticusMania LANA! HE REMEMBERS ME!

    Sep 10, 2008
    Pomona, SoCal
    Thats what I was going to recommend. There are a couple good fuzzy synth sounds on there.

    One of the best pedals Ive ever bought.
     
  20. Jul 10, 2013 #20
    bassbrad

    bassbrad

    Aug 17, 2000
    Leander, TX (outside Austin)
    I use a modded Bass Balls for the phat fuzzy sound
     
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