Dollies probably don't work too well in the snow!
I can't count the number of times I've dragged an 810 from the parking lot to the stage in the snow. Isn't that one of the rites of passage for a Canadian bass player?
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I can't count the number of times I've dragged an 810 from the parking lot to the stage in the snow. Isn't that one of the rites of passage for a Canadian bass player?
Pretty soon guys will have to start carrying around a concrete block to keep their amp from dancing around the stage.
Well, if I had roadies, I wouldn't think twice about the size and hassle factor of anything I use. But, I like a quick load in and easy setup so I am always looking for ways to make things as simple as possible. Moving to smaller lighter stuff helps. I am talking small to medium sized bars/restaurants with a band that doesn't play too loud.
If I were playing big stages and outdoor shows I imagine my preferences would be different.
If I were playing big stages and outdoor shows I imagine my preferences would be different.
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While this is obviously a troll thread and as such has been inhabited by more than just the OP troll (the usual TB stable of pot stirrers), I'm still gonna answer.
I carry a nice ol' Fender Twin Reverb filled with nice heavy Weber California speakers for every show. I also carry plenty of other heavy gear too.
I have a wonderful sounding high power amp and speaker setup that is all of 6 feet tall when set up. It kills and doesn't need to be 300 pounds to do it. One (or three) less heavy lifting trips in and out of the club is never a bad thing.
I carry a nice ol' Fender Twin Reverb filled with nice heavy Weber California speakers for every show. I also carry plenty of other heavy gear too.
I have a wonderful sounding high power amp and speaker setup that is all of 6 feet tall when set up. It kills and doesn't need to be 300 pounds to do it. One (or three) less heavy lifting trips in and out of the club is never a bad thing.
Yeah, load in and load out time - both shortened - can't complain.
So, I help the other band members with their gear. The drummer loves me. LOL.
So, I help the other band members with their gear. The drummer loves me. LOL.
I get your point about having a rig that's easy to move, but I play bars with tube amps and I bring a big cab to the larger rooms I play. I think it's not as big a deal as it's being made out to be. I respect your choices in gear, and I hear case for light weight amps, but because I grew up with heavy gear I find it hard to imagine a great sounding amp as something that's impractically heavy. When my back gives out I'll be changing my attitude, but as a reasonably healthy 45 year old, I don't see it as something terribly onerous.
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The guys in the band are pretty happy to help load in, but when I get home at 2am, I'm alone and for the 4th loading of gear that night, I appreciate lighter gear especially since I'm still moving at least my Twin and sometimes PA gear too...up the stairs to my flat.
The dudes who act all obnoxious about the fact that others have light gear would find something else to cut on people about if it wasn't the weight of their gear. The stupid part is that we're not talking about how it sounds but what it takes to lift it.
My Ford Taurus won't fit a 8 X10 cab and my basses. That plus I have bad hands and can't lift much. So a light weight combo is perfect for me. Not playing the Superdome any time soon. Hell if you need big and heavy for a big gig you can always rent it
I can't count the number of times I've dragged an 810 from the parking lot to the stage in the snow. Isn't that one of the rites of passage for a Canadian bass player?
Unfortunately (or fortunately), I have never owned an 8x10 cab. I have seen a few bass players bring one to venues with small stages though.
Your biceps are bigger than my body! No wonder you have no problems lifting large cabs and amps!
I was wondering if your user name was that Vail. I first saw you on Arsenio Hall many years ago!
the elements that allow the super- light weight absolutely compromise the sound and that is the point of my post. Why do people favor light weight over a good sound? I know there are small amps that sound great at a low level, so cool. If you need to really move some air the light weight amps start to crap out pretty early. Just curious as to why that doesn't seem to bother some people. Maybe it's just me and I should leave it alone but why shouldn't I have a right to pose a question?
I have seen a few bass players bring one to venues with small stages though.
I don't bring it to rooms with small stages. I use my LDS 15/6/1 or my B15-R for that. But when I'm playing rooms with a stage and there's production, etc, sure I'll bring it out.
I still respect your choice, by the way.
yeah, that's me, I'm just bored here in Portugal, that's when I have the time/ energy to post; when I'm on the road at the hotel.
Light weight does not compromise sound. That's why tons of people like it.
Get a good stage sound, and you go through the PA. Win. Win.
Amirite?
Yep.
Get a good stage sound, and you go through the PA. Win. Win.
Amirite?
Yep.
I'm going to voice my opinion, even though I probably shouldn't...since I don't own much of a bass rig at all.
But I do work in the health care industry. For those of you lifting the big cabs by yourselves; if you aren't doing specific daily core strengthening exercises and using very good body mechanics, and wearing a back brace, you will likely be meeting someone like me sooner or later. Think it won't happen to you...so do 90% of our clients.
Now if you do perform the correct daily exercises, or have roadies, good for you. But even though I haven't met most of the members here, I'll bet that the vast majority do not. So for them, the only good option is a lighter weight rig, regardless of the tonal differences. It really shouldn't be viewed as an issue of being "wimpy or lazy."
But I do work in the health care industry. For those of you lifting the big cabs by yourselves; if you aren't doing specific daily core strengthening exercises and using very good body mechanics, and wearing a back brace, you will likely be meeting someone like me sooner or later. Think it won't happen to you...so do 90% of our clients.
Now if you do perform the correct daily exercises, or have roadies, good for you. But even though I haven't met most of the members here, I'll bet that the vast majority do not. So for them, the only good option is a lighter weight rig, regardless of the tonal differences. It really shouldn't be viewed as an issue of being "wimpy or lazy."
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How very ........ subjective. Surely there must be some people that prefer the sound of light gear over heavy gear? Or do you speak for every single bass player that has ever lived?
I can move my entire rig and all my gear in one trip by myself if I want to. Not gonna lie but it's kinda cool
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