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Why no low-mid price range amps/combos?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by mrbell321, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. mrbell321


    Mar 26, 2012
    N. Colorado
    I've been getting by w/ my $30 15-watt crate amp for a while now. I can do this because I haven't played along with anyone else and more often than not, I use headphones. But I recently started jamming w/ some people and the 15-watt doesn't cut it. I doubt a 25-watt would either. That seems to be all that is available up to about $100. Then there seems to be absolutely no options until you get to almost $300 to get a 100W or more. BTW, yes I know wattage isn't isn't everything and isn't consistent.

    I'm not a professional and I have no aspirations to be one. This is just a hobby for me. So I'd like to spend ~$150 or MAYBE $200 on something jam worthy. Hell, the two basses I own cost less than $200 together. But there doesn't seem anything in this range used or otherwise, at least locally. It's harder to find something not local since
    1) I can't hear it/try it
    2) shipping 50lbs is spendy
    3) I don't see anything reasonable anywhere else, anyway.
    I don't want to knock down any buildings with it, I just want to hear myself(and pretend I sound good) in with the drums and guitar. I think at least 50W would pass, 75W would be great.
    I have some electronics and woodworking experience, so I was even looking to build something too. But even a decent driver would take almost my full budget.

    Sorry, I'll stop ranting now...

    On to what I have looked at.
    I tried out an Ampeg ba115, but I didn't like it at all. Pawn shop, so it could have been damaged and the guy wanted $350 for it.
    I also tried out a used Fender Rumble 100. I actually liked this one, but the guy was asking more than I wanted to pay. Plus this thing was heavier than I want to lug around.
    Used Line6 Lowdown 110. This one was almost in my price range and the clean and R&B sounded nice. I didn't like the no-loop setup and no pedal switch(not that I have a use for this at the moment, but it would be nice) and the other settings were completely uninteresting to me. I heard they're not terribly durable. Also, I have a Line6 guitar amp and I'm not a huge fan of it's sound anymore.
    New Fender Rumble 70. Didn't have the range of the 100, I thought and was still more than I wanted to spend.

    Bah! I think I'm giving up and learning the tuba.
  2. daveman50

    daveman50 Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Westchester County NY
    That $200 tuba won't sound too good, either.

    Keep looking for used gear - you will find it soon.
  3. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

    Nov 7, 2011
    Grand Rapids Michigan
    Shop used locally.
  4. In reply to OP title: money- not enough demand for EXACTLY what you're asking for to turn a profit.
  5. Waldo19


    Jul 9, 2011
    Two words: USED PEAVEY

    Peavey is not a super desirable brand but their amps last forever and even the older ones often have a lot of desirable features (line out and headphone jack etc). If your goal is to jam I'd search your local craigslist and guitarcenter/samash etc used postings (very easy online) and see if their are any used TNT combos. YMMV.
  6. hdracer


    Feb 15, 2009
    Elk River, MN.
    Why does it have to be a combo?
    You can find old Peavey Mk III's & IV's for $100
    Some nice reliable older Hartke heads in the same price range.
    Used Peavey 115 or 410 cabs sell used for around $100

    Forget used junk combo's and get a real rig, yeah it may be old and heavy but it will sound decent and last you forever.
  7. capncal


    Apr 14, 2009
    Check out the new line of Acoustic combo amps. Pretty cheap new, and real cheap used. My nephew's got the 1x15 200w combo and it sounds damn good to me, although I've never heard it in a full band set up. Not terribly heavy. Not sure about the effects loop and all that jazz.
  8. This. You'll get A LOT of boom for your bucks.
  9. Old GK 400RB often go for $150-200.
    I am always seeing old heavy cabinets for cheap on Craigslist.
  10. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    cincy ky
    Owner, Chopshopamps.com
    CL, GC, and here. for under 200 it'll be tight and require some patience, but for just a reputable 60-75 watter it can be done. i know you aren't into buying without playing it first (the perfect scenario is always try before you buy), but have you dismissed it outright? i just posted yesterday in another thread about gigging amps on the cheap. i took about 5 minutes and turned up seven or eight possibilities on a (more powerful than you're seeking) rig for 300 or less. i did that at the GC used pages. i,ve picked up a few things from the random stores around the country and have to say they have to have some kind of deal with ups. they sent me (i'm in KY) a 5 pc junior drum kit for my son from Seattle and shipping was 18. it was two darn big boxes, too. AND it got here in three days. sure an 810 would be a much different story, but a 70 watt ss 1x12 combo? prob ship coast to coast under 50. it doesn't hurt to inquire. if the shipping is kinda high, ask for a lower price on the amp to "help you pull the trigger" on it. i just had a marshall microstack for 5 bucks over the asking price, because i told the sales guy i'm in if you can get it to me for $xxx. he dropped the price almost enough to nullify the tax and shipping.

    i'll go look now. i'll brb
  11. gt96g

    gt96g Supporting Member

    Jul 25, 2008
    Philly Area
    one of the new acoustics from gc, used a 115 100w goes for about $100, that or a fender rumble 100 should meet you power needs and fit you budget
  12. autodidact


    Mar 13, 2011
    Lancaster, PA
    Another +1 for used Peavey, you can get a TNT115 combo for $100-$130 all day around these parts on Craigslist.
  13. BbbyBld


    Oct 13, 2005
    Meridian, MS
    Try the new Peavey Max series combos.
  14. basscooker

    basscooker Commercial User

    Apr 11, 2010
    cincy ky
    Owner, Chopshopamps.com
    on the quick look i see a peavey mark3 head for 50 bucks and a seismic audio 115 cab for 60. there were a couple behringer 4500's in there really cheap too, but i'd stay away IMHO. your budget keeps you pretty far down on the scale, but it can be done.
  15. christw

    christw Get low!

    May 11, 2008
    Dayton OH
    I want to be Tesla (tinkerer at Dayton Amp Co)
    Be patient and watch craigslist. Used gear will save you lots of money, especially older gear like Peaveys. I've seen several whole rigs sell for $200-$300 around here.
  16. kikstand454


    Sep 28, 2012
    Another vote here for accoustic.
    You can get the 200w head new for 200 bucks, and find a 4ohm cab somwhere and hang in almost any situation.
  17. mrbell321


    Mar 26, 2012
    N. Colorado
    Doesn't have to be a combo, but I haven't seen ANY heads in my price range at all.

    Partially, it must be where I live, N. Colorado. There just isn't much at all for bass amps on CL and most of it is low wattage, or they're just asking a ton. I know I could haggle them down some, but with an asking price of $600, they're not letting it go for $200. I'm just annoyed.

    Thanks for the tip on TNT115. I'll keep an eye out, but there are 2 on CL over the last couple months and both are way out of my budget.
  18. the yeti

    the yeti

    Nov 6, 2007
    raleigh, nc
    unless you play with a very quiet drummer and a very quiet guitar player you probably will have a tough time hearing yourself with 50 watts and $200 worth of speaker. that could have something to do w/why there's not too many of these amps around i guess.
  19. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    got a 200w marshall ibs 115 combo at a garage sale for 100 bones, there is good stuff out there
  20. mrbell321


    Mar 26, 2012
    N. Colorado
    See, I don't have a lot of experience here, but I really have to question this fairly common conception. See, my 15W was enough to be heard with the drummer. Not well and he wasn't going crazy. But it wasn't completely lost. I fully accept that 50W may not be enough which is why I was really hoping for 75W. Again, wattage isn't everything, but that is 5x the power I have now. Sure, I'd go for 500W, but I'm just not interested in paying for that.

    I think my main point was that you can get 15-30W units for $50 or less pretty easily. But any louder than that and you quickly end up above $300.

    I guess I need to check out garage sales.