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Why play a four string?

First of all, no, I have not read all the messages in the thread. For that, I apologize. Your initial post prompted two responses:
1. How many of us frequently use all the strings available, no matter how many we have? I played bass for about 30 years at church. With two keyboards, drums, two guitars, the occasional sax, mandolin, banjitar, whatever, plus four or more singers, the music director usually just wanted the bass to find the root rhythmically and stay out of the way. (OK, it wasn't always that simple, but you know what I mean.) I found myself usually using three out of four strings on a given song and, yes, that probably says more about my limitations than anything else.
2. Among my limitations is that I am 5'7" tall. My main bass for years has been an Alembic Persuader Vector with a 32" scale. I have thought about a fiver, but the one I found most appealing was a 32" Alembic I definitely could not afford. The same church gig, however, drove me to an alternative solution. I built a four-string jazz bass tuned BEAD. It's difficult to capo singers, so we played a lot of songs in Eb or other unappealing keys. I'm also convinced that a ton of 5-string owners just want to play E at the 5th fret of the B string and don't often use the full capabilities of their string range. For my part, I wanted to play Eb on the 4th fret of the B string.

At this point, my BEAD bass is just a beautiful oddity mostly hanging on my wall because I retired from playing at church this past Father's Day. Now I just sit around playing guitar and occasionally lobbing my strange opinions onto facebook or other discussion arenas like TB! Rock on, amigos!
 
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This is and should be, about nothing more than sonics. If you need the lower register then yes. If you don't need that register then don't. You're welcome.
Not thanking you for that advice. The issue is much more complex than simple sonics, it's about dynamism and functionalism in HOW you play your instrument. As I said before, if it's simply a matter sonics, get an octave pedal.
 
In case you wonder what the BEAD bass looks like, here it is ...

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It's different for everyone so for me here it goes... No matter how proficient one may become on a 5'er, or 6'er for that matter there are still some songs that a 4 string serves better. I prefer a passive bass overall, for lots of reasons, but I've never played a passive 5'er that I'm impressed with, AND if you're gonna rumble the seats with that low B then it's 18volt period, the extra headroom is essential for the low B. So for me I certainly need an arsenal of 4 & 5 string bass guitars. Besides...when is "ONE" bass ever enough, lol (NOTE: I tried this explanation with my ex-wife to no avail no surprise there eh? :D
 
I wrestled with the title of this post.

I have been a four string player for a long time (longer than I’m going to tell anyone).

But as music has progressed, last year I found myself in need of the “even” lower register. A lot of music diving down to low D, C and even B.

So after a torrid affair with a cheapo fake Fender fiver I pulled the trigger on a quality fiver.

After a little acclimation I seem to have it well in hand now.

And besides the lower notes I have found the greater freedom of horizontal playing.

I still move up and down the board. You know some old habits will never die.

But I now see no reason to have a four string anymore. I can play everything on the five. Even if I never drop below the E it gives me many choices I didn’t have before. And I find that liberating.

My last four string I had for 7 years. And we had a bond. But when the fiver came into the picture it went into the case and sat for three months.

I don’t think anybody wants to sit a $1600 bass in its case for months let alone years.

I released it about a month ago. While I miss it I have new friends now. And have lost interest in four string entirely.

I understand fivers aren’t for everyone.

Some people have small hands. Same here. I tried them all. Well those I could afford. I’m sure Alembic make a very lovable fiver. But I love my house too.

No one was more surprised as I was that Fender made the five string bass I would love so much.

And after a great while playing only fives I wonder why anyone wouldn’t just play those and let the four just go extinct.

I’m sure the flamers are writhing their hands as they read this.

I think I just heard a MMBWAAAAHAHAHAHA in the distance.

My point is I moved away from fours and I don’t see any reason to ever go back.

So I doubled down.

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The question should be "Why care how many strings someone prefers?"
 
I, too, will apologize for not reading all 20 preceding pages; this question comes up every so often here in the TB pages, so my usual answer:

Of course, for years fours were all there were, just as for years you had piano and Hammonds . . . . . then Rhodes, Wurlitzers and the like began to tilt the board, then we're into Moogs, DX7's, and on and on. Pianos didn't go out of business. Hammonds are great plug-ins for those who don't want to lug the beast around, if you can still find one.

I look at bass guitar the same way. Landmark music was made on fours, and will continue to be made on them. Other players saw that extending the range to 5 or 6 strings (or more . . . . . ) would suit them better . . . . . and the vision that guys like Jimmy Johnson and Anthony Jackson had were enabled by the instruments they were able to pioneer. But that does not make a four-string any less of an instrument, and I'm quite sure they'd tell you that.

We've come a long way since the fifties with Leo's original Precision and a Bassman amp. The instrument and its' amps have bloomed into very sophisticated setups if that's what you want to hear and use, not to mention technique and the skill levels out there now.

But we play what speaks to us, what we think best suits our vision of what we want and how we want to do it. For some guys, it IS that PBass and a Bassman. For others, a modern six with an amp rig that could double in a pinch as a PA is the only thing that will do.

There is no universally 'right answer', and if a four floats your boat, then that's the 'right answer' for YOU.
 
I wrestled with the title of this post.

I have been a four string player for a long time (longer than I’m going to tell anyone).

But as music has progressed, last year I found myself in need of the “even” lower register. A lot of music diving down to low D, C and even B.

So after a torrid affair with a cheapo fake Fender fiver I pulled the trigger on a quality fiver.

After a little acclimation I seem to have it well in hand now.

And besides the lower notes I have found the greater freedom of horizontal playing.

I still move up and down the board. You know some old habits will never die.

But I now see no reason to have a four string anymore. I can play everything on the five. Even if I never drop below the E it gives me many choices I didn’t have before. And I find that liberating.

My last four string I had for 7 years. And we had a bond. But when the fiver came into the picture it went into the case and sat for three months.

I don’t think anybody wants to sit a $1600 bass in its case for months let alone years.

I released it about a month ago. While I miss it I have new friends now. And have lost interest in four string entirely.

I understand fivers aren’t for everyone.

Some people have small hands. Same here. I tried them all. Well those I could afford. I’m sure Alembic make a very lovable fiver. But I love my house too.

No one was more surprised as I was that Fender made the five string bass I would love so much.

And after a great while playing only fives I wonder why anyone wouldn’t just play those and let the four just go extinct.

I’m sure the flamers are writhing their hands as they read this.

I think I just heard a MMBWAAAAHAHAHAHA in the distance.

My point is I moved away from fours and I don’t see any reason to ever go back.

So I doubled down.

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I like this question!

I haven't owned a 4 since the very early 90's when I had to sell my G&L L2000E fretless... what an amazing bass that was...

Anyway, 5s were much less common back then. I've owned, then disowned, several different 5s and I've determined that I'm a stickler for spacing. I like W I D E necks (and I cannot lie). That made it even more difficult when I decided to go to 6 string! Tried a few of those, found a great one (Warwick thumb bolt-on 6 with wide spacing option, which happens to be for sale btw...). The problem with that one was that the 6th string was too much for me to keep track of: I kept getting lost vertically on the neck! So I backed off of using that one and just stuck with my fretless Stingray 5 for everything (I wasn't playing anything with any slapping in it). In fact, I've gone almost exclusively to my 5 string NS Design EUB. I won't sell the fretless, but I'm selling everything else because I'm not a collector: I want to have a practical toolkit. I will eventually buy a fretted bass, but only one, and it may be a 4 or a 5 depending on what I can find that I like. I LOVE the feel of a stingray 4 fretted, but I don't know if I like the feel of the 5 as much with frets. So, if I reluctantly get a 4, it will only be because I like the feel (mostly spacing) better than the 5.

I WILL say this, though: since I've played 5s (and 6s) pretty much exclusively for the last 25 years or so, I get disoriented on a 4. I'm just used to having the low B for reference, and would prefer not to deal with that if I don't "have" to.

I hope my response makes sense and doesn't just sound like me ranting about my gear...

Homestead Joe
 
i play 5's since 1995. i've just tried first one (it was washburn, kinda budget model, nice neck b.t.w.), and said, o.k. that's great. since 1995, i played 4'rs for a while, until i sold it, and bought the working (pony :) ) horse 5-er.
i'm still on this guitar. i bought another one at the start of the year - just to have one at home/gig, and that second one in the place i practice with band, etc.
anyhow, from time to time, i play 4's at gigs if i'm guest or something like that.
when i listen to music, i don't pay attention which instruments guys use, and/or how they use it (o.k. i still do, a bit :) ), -i simply listen to the music. overall performance. and i don't give a dime if it is great playing if it was performed on 4's or 5's, top of the line instruments, or budget strat-copies, etc.
i mean, it's not important really, the only thing that is important is music, right?
 
I bought a 5, because some songs need those lower notes. But my left hand never got used to the neck; it would cramp up (my hand, not the bass neck). That's a problem I've never had on a skinny 4 (but had in the past with larger necked 6-string guitars). So I sold the 5 and bought a second 4. My older 4 is going to become a BEAD bass, and I'll swap as songs call for it.