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Wife asking- Headphone Recommendation?

The Beyerdynamic DT900 pro x are great open back headphones.

Wearing closed back headphones can sometimes make you feel a little underwater, and over time they can give you headaches I have found.

In-ear headphones block out nearly everything in the room and can be a little painful after a while because in order to get good bass response they have to be all the way in the ear.

Open back are nice because you can hear the room.
 
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Before deciding which brand and model that you want you should figure out how the phone will be used, Some of these are open-back - which provides some breathability so that your ears don’t sweat. Open back phones also allow the ambient sound from the room to be easily heard (which you may or may not want). Closed back phones are sealed chambers which provides some acoustic isolation. The Audio-Technica, AKG, Sony, Sennheiser and others are all widely used and each brand has its fans. I use AKG and I have both open and closed back models (the K271 Studio is the one I use the most)

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While I am a big fan of the M50, I use it mostly for music and movies. If something is needed mostly for bass practice, the answer might be different.

BTW, sadly, bluetooth is bad for bass practice. Bluetooth adds enough delay ("latency") to be a problem. Also, strictly speaking, even the best Bluetooth is not as good as a wire.
 
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While I am a big fan of the M50, I use it mostly for music and movies. If something is needed mostly for bass practice, the answer might be different.

BTW, sadly, bluetooth is bad for bass practice. Bluetooth adds enough delay ("latency") to be a problem. Also, strictly speaking, even the best Bluetooth is not as good as a wire.
I honestly didn't know a bluetooth version existed. I personally was referring to the wired ones.
 
Hey Talkbass!

I don't play an instrument but my husband does. I want to get him a pair of headphones for Christmas but there are so many on the market it's making my head spin. He's got a Pbass and Music Man.
I would love a recommendation on what to get him that has good sound quality and will last with regular use.

Thanks thanks from a clueless wife!

You want him to get him a pair of headphones, but every year he asks Santa for this:

micro-vr-stack-red-limited-edition-2x10-200w-hd-173827.jpeg



It’s a miniature version of the venerable Ampeg bass stack. So small it’s barely louder than sitting next to someone using headphones, and perfect for *any* room in the home… looking lovely in Christmas red to mark the occasion of this very thoughtful gift!

Wish you both the best.
 
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For recording I swear by my inexpensive Sennheiser HD 280 Pros. Comfortable, under $100 and they have extended bass which is a huge help in the studio. I’ve used nothing else in the studio for probably 15 or more years.

That said, they’re not flat. They’re not meant to be. They definitely emphasize bass. I don’t typically listen to music with headphones unless I’m recording but if I were looking for headphones to Just enjoy music with I’d go straight to Grado. Beyer would be my next choice.
 
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Hey Talkbass!

I don't play an instrument but my husband does. I want to get him a pair of headphones for Christmas but there are so many on the market it's making my head spin. He's got a Pbass and Music Man.
I would love a recommendation on what to get him that has good sound quality and will last with regular use.

Thanks thanks from a clueless wife!
Audio Technicas are great!
 
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While I am a big fan of the M50, I use it mostly for music and movies. If something is needed mostly for bass practice, the answer might be different.

BTW, sadly, bluetooth is bad for bass practice. Bluetooth adds enough delay ("latency") to be a problem. Also, strictly speaking, even the best Bluetooth is not as good as a wire.

I agree - because of response and dynamics limitations I wouldn’t even consider Bluetooth headphones
 
While I appreciate the Sennheiser, the Grados would be my recommendation. However, that’s if your buying these headphones for your spouse to listen to music. If you’re looking for headphones for him to use when practicing his bass lines that’s a whole other story. In that case, you should be willing to spend a bit more since it’s not only a gift for him but probably one for yourself (I speak from experience and conviction here). I’d recommend the headphones from Phil Jones Bass (PJB) for practicing.
 
I'll say it again:

Please let us know the budget. You tend to get what you pay for with headphones and some of them are VERY expensive. It really doesn't make much sense to make any recommendations without at least knowing your budget.

Ideally we also need to know what your husband will use these headphones for and where he will use them. Many of the headphones already suggested in this thread are exellent for SOME applications but can be very poor for others.

Simply asking about "headphones" is a bit like asking someone to go to the store and buy a pound of vegetables, when you really need tomatoes. Of course, you MIGHT get tomatoes... but you might also end up with a brussel sprout pizza.

Will he only use the headphones for practising bass? Most decent headphones will be ok for this. For practising I tend to prefer closed back headphones that also sit firmly on my head, as they give me better isolation from any distracting noise and won't fall off my head when I'm playing. I don't need neutral sounding headphones for practising, a bit of bass boost can be fun. I also don't use my most expensive headphones for this. Practise headphones are expendable items in my world.

For recording? I would use more or less the same type of headphones as for practising, although maybe ideally more neutral/detailed sounding to get a better idea of the actual tone of the instrument. At least if this for serious recording.

For mixing? I would strongly recommend open back headphones as most of these models tend to have a better soundstage and a more neutral sound than most closed back headphones. I also avoid headphones that sit very tightly on my head for mixing sessions as it can get a bit uncomfortable. Weight may also be an issue, some hi-end headphones can be rather heavy. Mixing will always be a compomise with headphones though, and you'll need rather expensive headphones (+ a good headphone amp) for the best results.

For casual listeing? What kind of music? Some headphones can be lots of fun with many "modern" genres of music but sound horrble and fatiguing with classical music or jazz. Other headphones can have amazing detail and soundstage with classical music but lack the punch most people want then listening to other types of music.

Does "leakage" of sound into the room matter? Have you ever been annoyed when you can hear lots of leakage from someone playing loud music through their headphones on public transport? Would this be a problem? Then you should avoid open back headphones, as they WILL leak sound. Open back headphones are also poor for recording vocals or acoustic instruments as the leakage of the backing track (or click track) will be picked up by the mic.

Is portability important, or will he only use the headphones at home?

It also matters what he will plug the headphones into. Impedance is the key word and this is IMPORTANT. As a general rule:

-Lower impedance headphones (8-32 ohms) work best with portable devices but aren't ideal for use with studio gear.

-Medium impedance headphones (around 32-100 ohms) are "allround" headphones that will be ok in most situations but may struggle a bit with portable devices and not be the BEST choice for professional studio gear or hi-end headphone amps.

-High impedance headphones (anything above 100 ohms but typically 250 ohms or higher) have the best sound but need a VERY good headphone amplifier to drive them properly. They will sound weak/thin and lacking in volume with most consumer grade equipment and be more or less useless with portable devices.

To make matters even more confusing, some very popular models of headphones are even available with different impedance ratings, depending on what you need the headphones for.

This may all sound a bit nerdy but it matters. A LOT. Especially the part about impedance. Some headphones are designed specifically for expensive studio gear or high end headphone amplifiers but will perform very poorly with lower grade equipment. Other headphones are (more or less successful) attempts at "allround" designs. And some are designed specifically for portable devices but won't sound great for other applications.

Medium impedance headphones are usually the safest choice for allround use, but not necessarily the best choice for every situation.

If I HAD to recommend one specific model without knowing any further details it would probably be the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro (80 ohms). This is assuming he will use them mainly for practising bass and maybe a bit of recording but doesn't own any high-end studio gear or a high-end headphone amplifier. These headphones will also be very nice for casual listening with most genres of music. They should also work ok (but maybe not ideal) with portable devices. They're not a good choice for mixing though (but few headphones are, and most of them are far more expensive).
 
I'll say it again:

Please let us know the budget. You tend to get what you pay for with headphones and some of them are VERY expensive. It really doesn't make much sense to make any recommendations without at least knowing your budget.

Ideally we also need to know what your husband will use these headphones for and where he will use them. Many of the headphones already suggested in this thread are exellent for SOME applications but can be very poor for others.

Simply asking about "headphones" is a bit like asking someone to go to the store and buy a pound of vegetables, when you really need tomatoes. Of course, you MIGHT get tomatoes... but you might also end up with a brussel sprout pizza.

Will he only use the headphones for practising bass? Most decent headphones will be ok for this. For practising I tend to prefer closed back headphones that also sit firmly on my head, as they give me better isolation from any distracting noise and won't fall off my head when I'm playing. I don't need neutral sounding headphones for practising, a bit of bass boost can be fun. I also don't use my most expensive headphones for this. Practise headphones are expendable items in my world.

For recording? I would use more or less the same type of headphones as for practising, although maybe ideally more neutral/detailed sounding to get a better idea of the actual tone of the instrument. At least if this for serious recording.

For mixing? I would strongly recommend open back headphones as most of these models tend to have a better soundstage and a more neutral sound than most closed back headphones. I also avoid headphones that sit very tightly on my head for mixing sessions as it can get a bit uncomfortable. Weight may also be an issue, some hi-end headphones can be rather heavy. Mixing will always be a compomise with headphones though, and you'll need rather expensive headphones (+ a good headphone amp) for the best results.

For casual listeing? What kind of music? Some headphones can be lots of fun with many "modern" genres of music but sound horrble and fatiguing with classical music or jazz. Other headphones can have amazing detail and soundstage with classical music but lack the punch most people want then listening to other types of music.

Does "leakage" of sound into the room matter? Have you ever been annoyed when you can hear lots of leakage from someone playing loud music through their headphones on public transport? Would this be a problem? Then you should avoid open back headphones, as they WILL leak sound. Open back headphones are also poor for recording vocals or acoustic instruments as the leakage of the backing track (or click track) will be picked up by the mic.

Is portability important, or will he only use the headphones at home?

It also matters what he will plug the headphones into. Impedance is the key word and this is IMPORTANT. As a general rule:

-Lower impedance headphones (8-32 ohms) work best with portable devices but aren't ideal for use with studio gear.

-Medium impedance headphones (around 32-100 ohms) are "allround" headphones that will be ok in most situations but may struggle a bit with portable devices and not be the BEST choice for professional studio gear or hi-end headphone amps.

-High impedance headphones (anything above 100 ohms but typically 250 ohms or higher) have the best sound but need a VERY good headphone amplifier to drive them properly. They will sound weak/thin and lacking in volume with most consumer grade equipment and be more or less useless with portable devices.

To make matters even more confusing, some very popular models of headphones are even available with different impedance ratings, depending on what you need the headphones for.

This may all sound a bit nerdy but it matters. A LOT. Especially the part about impedance. Some headphones are designed specifically for expensive studio gear or high end headphone amplifiers but will perform very poorly with lower grade equipment. Other headphones are (more or less successful) attempts at "allround" designs. And some are designed specifically for portable devices but won't sound great for other applications.

Medium impedance headphones are usually the safest choice for allround use, but not necessarily the best choice for every situation.

If I HAD to recommend one specific model without knowing any further details it would probably be the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro (80 ohms). This is assuming he will use them mainly for practising bass and maybe a bit of recording but doesn't own any high-end studio gear or a high-end headphone amplifier. These headphones will also be very nice for casual listening with most genres of music. They should also work ok (but maybe not ideal) with portable devices. They're not a good choice for mixing though (but few headphones are, and most of them are far more expensive).
Just in general a great, very accurate post. I would have written it myself, but I couldn't be bothered.... ;):thumbsup:
 
You want him to get him a pair of headphones, but every year he asks Santa for this:

micro-vr-stack-red-limited-edition-2x10-200w-hd-173827.jpeg



It’s a miniature version of the venerable Ampeg bass stack. So small it’s barely louder than sitting next to someone using headphones, and perfect for *any* room in the home… looking lovely in Christmas red to mark the occasion of this very thoughtful gift!

Wish you both the best.

Lol you're post is great!
 
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I'll say it again:

Please let us know the budget. You tend to get what you pay for with headphones and some of them are VERY expensive. It really doesn't make much sense to make any recommendations without at least knowing your budget.

Ideally we also need to know what your husband will use these headphones for and where he will use them. Many of the headphones already suggested in this thread are exellent for SOME applications but can be very poor for others.

Simply asking about "headphones" is a bit like asking someone to go to the store and buy a pound of vegetables, when you really need tomatoes. Of course, you MIGHT get tomatoes... but you might also end up with a brussel sprout pizza.

Will he only use the headphones for practising bass? Most decent headphones will be ok for this. For practising I tend to prefer closed back headphones that also sit firmly on my head, as they give me better isolation from any distracting noise and won't fall off my head when I'm playing. I don't need neutral sounding headphones for practising, a bit of bass boost can be fun. I also don't use my most expensive headphones for this. Practise headphones are expendable items in my world.

For recording? I would use more or less the same type of headphones as for practising, although maybe ideally more neutral/detailed sounding to get a better idea of the actual tone of the instrument. At least if this for serious recording.

For mixing? I would strongly recommend open back headphones as most of these models tend to have a better soundstage and a more neutral sound than most closed back headphones. I also avoid headphones that sit very tightly on my head for mixing sessions as it can get a bit uncomfortable. Weight may also be an issue, some hi-end headphones can be rather heavy. Mixing will always be a compomise with headphones though, and you'll need rather expensive headphones (+ a good headphone amp) for the best results.

For casual listeing? What kind of music? Some headphones can be lots of fun with many "modern" genres of music but sound horrble and fatiguing with classical music or jazz. Other headphones can have amazing detail and soundstage with classical music but lack the punch most people want then listening to other types of music.

Does "leakage" of sound into the room matter? Have you ever been annoyed when you can hear lots of leakage from someone playing loud music through their headphones on public transport? Would this be a problem? Then you should avoid open back headphones, as they WILL leak sound. Open back headphones are also poor for recording vocals or acoustic instruments as the leakage of the backing track (or click track) will be picked up by the mic.

Is portability important, or will he only use the headphones at home?

It also matters what he will plug the headphones into. Impedance is the key word and this is IMPORTANT. As a general rule:

-Lower impedance headphones (8-32 ohms) work best with portable devices but aren't ideal for use with studio gear.

-Medium impedance headphones (around 32-100 ohms) are "allround" headphones that will be ok in most situations but may struggle a bit with portable devices and not be the BEST choice for professional studio gear or hi-end headphone amps.

-High impedance headphones (anything above 100 ohms but typically 250 ohms or higher) have the best sound but need a VERY good headphone amplifier to drive them properly. They will sound weak/thin and lacking in volume with most consumer grade equipment and be more or less useless with portable devices.

To make matters even more confusing, some very popular models of headphones are even available with different impedance ratings, depending on what you need the headphones for.

This may all sound a bit nerdy but it matters. A LOT. Especially the part about impedance. Some headphones are designed specifically for expensive studio gear or high end headphone amplifiers but will perform very poorly with lower grade equipment. Other headphones are (more or less successful) attempts at "allround" designs. And some are designed specifically for portable devices but won't sound great for other applications.

Medium impedance headphones are usually the safest choice for allround use, but not necessarily the best choice for every situation.

If I HAD to recommend one specific model without knowing any further details it would probably be the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro (80 ohms). This is assuming he will use them mainly for practising bass and maybe a bit of recording but doesn't own any high-end studio gear or a high-end headphone amplifier. These headphones will also be very nice for casual listening with most genres of music. They should also work ok (but maybe not ideal) with portable devices. They're not a good choice for mixing though (but few headphones are, and most of them are far more expensive).

Lol vegetables, well said! Thanks for taking the time to write all this. I learned A LOT. I knew I was being vague. Just wanted to see what the forum personally liked most without limiting to price. At this point seems to be Sony... If it was a really killer pair of headphones no more than $500 seems reasonable.

Practicing and recording, so you assumed correctly. Not worried about leakage. Jazz and classical, he likes playing both but I just want him to be able to hear the bass clearly ultimately.
He has a JoPreamp J-B15 All Tube Bass Preamp 2019 Tweed, Jule M700 Hyper power amp, and a Epifani American Tweed.

And yes, the impedance is what stopped me in the tracks when I was first looking. How confusing but you've really spelled it out!
 
There is a pair of Audio Technica ATH M40x next to my recliner that I bought because I see more and more podcasters using them.

They're fine and they have a detachable cord and come with a straight and a curly...that's handy. They fold up nicely and unfold, well, they're pretty fiddly to un-fold, and they sound very similar to the SONY MDR-7506 that are laying on every mixing console I own.
 
Lol vegetables, well said! Thanks for taking the time to write all this. I learned A LOT. I knew I was being vague. Just wanted to see what the forum personally liked most without limiting to price. At this point seems to be Sony... If it was a really killer pair of headphones no more than $500 seems reasonable.

Practicing and recording, so you assumed correctly. Not worried about leakage. Jazz and classical, he likes playing both but I just want him to be able to hear the bass clearly ultimately.
He has a JoPreamp J-B15 All Tube Bass Preamp 2019 Tweed, Jule M700 Hyper power amp, and a Epifani American Tweed.

And yes, the impedance is what stopped me in the tracks when I was first looking. How confusing but you've really spelled it out!

As far as I can tell none of the gear you listed actually has any headphone outputs? But I have no personal experience with any of these amps so I might have missed something here...?

It would help to know exactly what piece of equipment the headphones will be plugged into. That's where the impedance matters. If he has a recording setup I would perhaps expect that he plugs the headphones into an audio interface (if he uses a laptop/mac/PC...), rather than into any of his bass amps?

From your explanation (so far) I still think the closed back Beyer DT-770 Pro (80 ohm) I recommended earlier will be a good, safe, allround choice. The only real downside is that they have a rather significant frequency boost in the upper midrange, which means you can't trust them for mixing and they may also sound slightly harsh/hyped/fatiguing when listening to classical music. At least when compared to more expensive, open back models.

The Sonys are great too, but personally I prefer the Beyers.

You mentioned classical/jazz and that leakage won't matter. This made me think of the Sennheiser HD600. These are open back and they're REALLY good headphones in their price range. For casual listening they sound absolutely amazing when listening to classical/jazz (but can perhaps be a bit TOO open/smooth sounding and lacking in low end punch for some types of modern popular music). The HD600s are also surprisingly good for mixing. They're the only headphones under $1500 that I've ever been able to do any serious mixing with. The downside is that, like all open back headphones they aren't suitable for recording vocals or acoustic instruments, because the backing track (or click track) will leak into the microphone. And the impedance is 300 ohms. Which means you'll ideally need a very good headphone amp (and you can forget about using them with the headphone outputs on portable devices).

Personally I prefer practising and recording with closed back headphones (which is why I suggested the Beyers). For MY taste, open back headphones are more suitable for mixing and casual listening. Some people prefer practising with open back headphones though... It really is a matter of personal taste. But if you think your husband will EVER record vocals or acoustic instruments, get closed back headphones. Open back headphones are utterly useless for recording ANYTHING that puts a mic inn the vicinity of the headphones, because of the severe leakage.

If you need more precise advice about the impedance we will need to know exactly which piece of equipment your husband will plug the headphones into (or if he will use them with more than one amp/audio interface).
 
When not playing bass I dabble in the audiophile world. I have a $1,200 pair of headphone, it’s that bad. I’ve been a headphone enthusiast for about 10 years.

my favorite headphone for the price is hands down the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro. Decent bass, immaculate midrange, spicy treble. My number one recommendation. They are also closed back, so you can listen to them anywhere without trouble.

I would not recommend Grado, they are a bit unusual, and not what I would recommend for a “professional use”. Plus they are really only able to be used at home since they are open back.

Arguably the best headphone under $500 would be the Sennheiser HD650. They are technically superior to the DT770 but I will say I’ve had both and I kept the DT770.

so really it comes down to is your husband going to be using them purely at home? If so, go with open back HD650s.

if he might use them in public, def go with the DT770

if you would like to dump even more money into it, I can recommend some headphone amplifiers and DAC’s.

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I would not recommend Grado, they are a bit unusual, and not what I would recommend for a “professional use”. Plus they are really only able to be used at home since they are open back.


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Wish someone had told me that 20 years ago. I've been using Grados professionally (part time recording engineer) for almost thirty years and the mixes I get with Grados always transfer better to all my systems from pretty high end to real-world check systems than anything I've ever done with Beyers (and yes, I have two pairs of Beyers and love them for what they are... Comfy, somewhat hyped, and very involving). Grados really don't have their "own sound," and that's why a lot pros DO like and use them. And yes, I use them on location recording gigs all the time... They work fine outside of one's home.

They are NOT the most comfortable thing in the world, I will admit. That's about their only drawback, unless you absolutely need isolation.
 
Wish someone had told me that 20 years ago. I've been using Grados professionally (part time recording engineer) for almost thirty years and the mixes I get with Grados always transfer better to all my systems from pretty high end to real-world check systems than anything I've ever done with Beyers (and yes, I have two pairs of Beyers and love them for what they are... Comfy, somewhat hyped, and very involving). Grados really don't have their "own sound," and that's why a lot pros DO like and use them. And yes, I use them on location recording gigs all the time... They work fine outside of one's home.

They are NOT the most comfortable thing in the world, I will admit. That's about their only drawback, unless you absolutely need isolation.

you had me until you said they don’t have their own sound. They look awesome but their build quality is terrible. I had the GS1000x and they fell apart on me twice. Switched to Audeze. I will say the grados had more complex and enjoyable bass then the highly regarded audeze.

maybe a set of the now discontinued and expensive PS series but again welcome to cans that will slowly degrade over time. Don’t tell me your cables never got twisted and knotted after the Y splitter.

so sure, in special cases they might be great but it’s not a can I would buy for someone else. Let them try and see if they like them, many don’t. Or you’ll love them. It’s a gamble. Cough-6db of boost at 2k-cough
 
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