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Will I die?

Will I die?

  • Yes

    Votes: 159 52.8%
  • No

    Votes: 35 11.6%
  • No, but don’t

    Votes: 80 26.6%
  • Carrots

    Votes: 27 9.0%

  • Total voters
    301
Yes...you're going to die.............eventually.

What's worse is that it is we, the rest of us, who will sit in judgement of you.....and you know how we can be!

Why, we may even link all your posts over to a guitar forum, and let them judge, too!

No,no...sorry...that's a step too far..............cruel and unusual.... forget I said it.

Here lies our friend @geof_
From Edison's gift, he came a cropper,
Could have saved his ass,
With 7 cents worth of copper.
 
Being an amateur repair guy, I always replace broken grounds or two prong plugs. I replace the entire cord with one that has a molded plug. I do not trust the cord replacement plugs. Plus while replacing the entire cord I often fine worn spots or old cracking plastic sheathing.

I can just envision getting to a gig plugging in then having to move my equipment and pulling the cord (instead of the plug) then staring at a frayed cable with wires sticking out whiled and the plug still firmly seated in the wall.

In addition to safety a good grounded amp chassis will help to reduce noise.

A while ago I was at Guitar Center checking out their used amps. I had one hand on an old Maganatone amp to brace myself while I was leaning over to check out the back of the amp. Then I put my hand on another amp to tilt it back and check out the back of that amp. "BANG!" I shot bolt upright and yelled out a few expletives. I was standing their trying to catch my breath and figure out what just happened. Well the Magnatone was an amp with an old two wire cord. The amp's chassis had some how become "hot". The other amp I touched had a grounded chassis. So 120 volts ran up my left arm, across my chest and my heart and down my right arm. Now imagine if I was on a wet stage. Or if you plugged both amps into a common piece of equipment like a mixer.

Go to a tech and have him replace the cord!
 
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Well....back in the 60's I had a '66 Fender Bassman amp. It had neither a grounded plug nor even a polarized plug. If it hummed, you toggled your on/off switch to reverse the polarity. Or you would turn the plug over. Both worked. Just because the ground is missing doesn't mean it will hum, but it might. More importantly is that it is possible for that thing to give you a nasty shock when start to sing into a mic that's using a different polarity than your amp.

110v in the US doesn't have enough amperage to kill you from what I understand, but it can sure light you up! Back in the 60's we would always touch the mic we were going to sing into before getting the mic close to our lips. If you touched it and it hummed, you needed to change either your polarity or the polarity of the mics. If you forgot to do that and the polarity didn't match, yes you would jump back with your eyes wide open if you got too close or touched your lips to the mic. It wasn't pleasant.

Now if you're in Europe, the UK, Australia, China, or anywhere the standard electricity is 220v...now, that can kill you.

I used to work on cars back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. Did a lot of things that could give a bit of a shock but nothing that was really dangerous. My younger brother and I had a small Tune-up shop in Oregon in 1985 and one day a Chrysler came in that had a 440 engine with "electronic ignition" instead of a normal ignition coil. A normal coil will send out about 20,000 volts. Electronic ignition would put out 50,000 volts as I found out to my dismay the first time I grabbed a sparkplug wire to disconnect it while the car was running.

The shock knocked me about 4-feet back from the car. We bought insulated spark plug wire-pullers from Snap-on Tools shortly after that. Later worked with a scope that could kill the spark to whatever cylinder you wanted so you didn't have to pull the wires to adjust and balance the carburetor. It's never fun to get shocked whether you're working on cars, on the house, or just making music. So replace that plug would ya?
 
If it goes wrong you get to ask these guys:

Guitarists electrocuted by their guitars

Get a new lead.
Notice that all those folks died where the electricity was 220volt (UK and Mexico), except for the harp player who inhaled his harmonica. 220v AC will kill you. 110v will only make you think it's killing you. I remember walking down Main Street in Disneyland and stopping at a machine that would shock you. It would start out with low power and gradually increase it until you let go of the handles. The point was to see who could take the most before letting go. Little did we know that after the electrical current reached a certain level, it would be impossible to let go because the electricity had constricted all the muscles in your hands and arms and you were stuck. Was really funny to see that happen... to someone else.
 
110v in the US doesn't have enough amperage to kill you from what I understand, but it can sure light you up!

@agedhorse Andy, help me save some lives here. This is 100% false. What’s the figure that can stop the heart, like a tenth of an amp?
(It’s the amps/current, not the voltage)
I’ve been lit up by an old Fender amp and the 2-prong non-polarized power plug. Not fun, my arm tingled for days.

Please, no more Darwin awards. Repair that power cable or toss it.
 
@agedhorse Andy, help me save some lives here. This is 100% false. What’s the figure that can stop the heart, like a tenth of an amp?
(It’s the amps/current, not the voltage)
I’ve been lit up by an old Fender amp and the 2-prong non-polarized power plug. Not fun, my arm tingled for days.

Please, no more Darwin awards. Repair that power cable or toss it.
0.1 amp is generally the given number that can kill you for sure.
 
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Funny opening, relative to now, and in my kind of humor vein. Good OP!

Reminds me of the time when I garbage-picked a Zenith stereo console from my neighborhood alley.

Preceded with it right up to the Knotty Pine upstairs bedroom in our small bungalow home.
10 years old I was, I think. ( I remember, so I guess I was there ).

After some tinkering - which consisted of crossing various wires to see what it would do to "fix" it - I learned a valuable lesson about that little round connector in the middle. And back then? What was a ground wire?
nbsipics - I love your avatar - gee-zuz, man - reminds of my early parenting days!
 
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