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Wireless ban

We develop some wireless products, and have been well aware of this for several years.

This whole thing is the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the American public. We don't NEED digital TV, but the FCC decided that they NEED the 17 BILLION DOLLARS that the air space would sell for to the various bidders (It actually sold for more) ALSO the TV makers decided that they NEEDED to sell everyone all new TVs with digital tuners and lobbied heavily for this unneeded change.

NOTE - be aware that the cable companies will soon stop carrying the analog channels and your older TV won't work any more unless you rent a digital cable box.

Public safety uses only tiny bits of bandwidth - they don't need the entire 700 MHz band where the UHF TV channels used to reside.

You will not only be in violation if you use your 700 MHz gear, but you will also run the chance of huge interference from much more powerful broadcasters now in your space. Note - for the FCC to catch you doing a one or two night show, someone most complain, but the downside is huge.

Wi-Fi and Bluetooth will not work - there is too much analog>digital>packet>unpacket>digital>analog conversion delay in the audio signal - so you can't keep time with the band. This is why there have not been more digital units on the market. Even the newer ones have this problem to some extent.
 
Wi-Fi and Bluetooth will not work - there is too much analog>digital>packet>unpacket>digital>analog conversion delay in the audio signal - so you can't keep time with the band. This is why there have not been more digital units on the market. Even the newer ones have this problem to some extent.

You can't compare WiFi and BT with digital wireless units. Far too different.

I know the X2's have a ~50 microsecond delay (~0.050ms for those familiar with 'ping'). Roughly equal to 1.8cm of extra distance between you and your speaker in terms of the speed of sound. (that includes all the A/D->RF->D/A times)

If that will throw off someone's musical timing, they are playing some crazy fast stuff. Sorry I'm just growing tired of the misinformation floating around here on digital wireless units...
 
You can't compare WiFi and BT with digital wireless units. Far too different.

I know the X2's have a ~50 microsecond delay (~0.050ms for those familiar with 'ping'). Roughly equal to 1.8cm of extra distance between you and your speaker in terms of the speed of sound. (that includes all the A/D->RF->D/A times)

If that will throw off someone's musical timing, they are playing some crazy fast stuff. Sorry I'm just growing tired of the misinformation floating around here on digital wireless units...

Actually, I measured an X2 XDR95 using a scope:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=520061

Post #10.

It measured at 4 milliseconds delay. Still not a delay you can hear.

MX
 
It's a FEDERAL law. Let us know how it goes, once you get caught.

not that I advocate breaking the Law, but FEDERAL law ain't all it's cracked up to be if you know how to play the game...


Folks in the UK, Canada, etc are going to be getting some great deals on wireless units!

Sadly probably not so much here in the UK as the Bandwidth is also being sold up here.

as per

In the UK the Government has kept certain Analouge freqs. for public sectors areas such as police, fire, ambulance, etc. But with the switch to Digital it seems they can sell all Analouge Freqs. and it will not be illegal to use them, but you do now need a licence from who ever owns the rights to that freq.

We have many cases where equipment falls in to the "you know need a licence" to use it, and that applies if even you plan to use it once for ten minutes. Again it is another tier of legislation enforceable in law that will be introduced.:)

This was the situation the M.U. was trying to clarify for members, i have heard nothing new to say that is not the case.
 
Actually, I measured an X2 XDR95 using a scope:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=520061

Post #10.

It measured at 4 milliseconds delay. Still not a delay you can hear.

MX


Thanks for sharing that - Gio spouted that same tired BS in another thread about these wireless units, then disappeared after being called on it...

Honestly, I don't know what some people get out of spreading misinformation, but they end up screwing their fellow musicians out of the enjoyment of playing thru an excellent wireless at a reasonable expense...


- georgestrings
 
Thanks for sharing that - Gio spouted that same tired BS in another thread about these wireless units, then disappeared after being called on it...

Honestly, I don't know what some people get out of spreading misinformation, but they end up screwing their fellow musicians out of the enjoyment of playing thru an excellent wireless at a reasonable expense...


- georgestrings

I've been using the X2 for about 3 years now with no problems and it sounds great.