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#422
Hi guys... I saw and played these basses before they were shipped to japan...

amazing..

http://wtbasses.net/
 

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#427
Good timing, the RJ's arrive today! I'll try to do an A/B soundclip.

Those new W&T's look spectacular, those guys have such an eye for beauty and design.

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#428
Hi
Can I be part of this club? I have a W&T Chronos 6 with horse chestnut top,alder body,maple neck with ebony fingerboard. I have been doing ramp from zebrano by myself. Beautifull instument by the way.
Greetings from Finland
-Mikko
 
#430
So... I swapped the Dolf's for the RJ Neo's in the Chronos, which currently has the Alien preamp. Immediately I noticed that the RJ's sound flatter in the mids, crisper up top and less blurry in the upper bass. "Flatter" is the best way to say it, vague as that is. The dolfs by comparison sound creamier, and have a little "slower" attack for lack of a better term. The bass now has a very viable slap tone, which it never really had (due to the specs I chose), and the low end is more controllable, but still massive. Ultimately, its a little too flat in the mids for my needs as it is, I miss a little of the creaminess in the midrange, that "horn-like quality" that i dig. I think that may be due to the combination of super clean pups + super clean pre. this is a concept that people talk alot about with amps, "too much of a good thing"; a wooly sounding head with a wooly sounding cabinet, or an inherently crispy and bright head with an unforgivingly sharp sounding cab can sound out of balance as they have similar peaks and valleys, frequency wise. Often the best amp/cab combinations are of two pieces of gear with different design goals, which come together to strike a nice tonal balance. Seems like that may be whats up here.

The Alien preamp is very transparent, and has very little distortion (the pleasing variety) in the midrange and lower treble region. I believe that the eq points on the preamp are set for a more traditional configuration, when I heard it in a bass with Nord P/big split, it absolutely smoked in that setup. i was VERY impressed. With my bass, and these pups, its just not quite the right recipe.

Just for my own reference point, I'm putting the East SP2 back into the bass to see how it fares with the RJ's. I really like the responsiveness and evenness of the RJ's, and i'm hoping the East will add back a little creaminess in the upper midrange that the alien doesnt quite offer, or at the very least allow me to tone shape onboard the way I like, being able to adjust the center point of each of the 3 bands, and use the onboard mid stack to bump the midrange in a pleasing "split the diffence" kind of way. At least thats what I'm hoping/assuming.

Mind you this is all IMO, YMMV. The testing i did was over 2-3 gigs with the RJ's and the dolfs. Testing so far done on small and medium stages with my puma 900, PJB briefcase, EA VL110s, big E 8x5 and Tecamp M212.I'll be happy to report back when I get East pre back in, and see where things are at. So don't get me wrong, both fantastic pieces of gear, but for my desires, not quite the magic combo.
 
#431
FWIW, playing tonight with the hollowbody 'stock' with the Dolf's and East pre and it just sounds fantastic... Perfect setup for that bass. A tad noisy under lights but whacha gonna do.
 
#438
I think I've found the setup that works best for me with RJ Neo's>East SP2. This combo yields the best sweetspot for me between quick and clean, and sweet and warm. The mid stack (the mid module from the Retro units) is very powerful and lets me instantly change from wonderful versions of fingerstyle to slap tone with a very small adjustment. Cut the low mids just right and it brings out the highs and lows for a great slap tone, or boost the mid mids, for the upper register that gets the warm, syrupy horn-like fingerstyle tone that I love. Very happy with this setup. I think I'll keep it like this for a while. Let me know if anyone has any more questions, I'm happy to oblige.
 
#439
Interesting Jake with your comments about the Mid controls on your bass, I'm currently going through that process with my Zon Tj-6 and I'm having a Pope Flexcore shipped out this week with the low/high separate mid knobs plus the mid switch. After talking with other bassists and wrestling with my own issues with tone i've come to the conclusion that the more control of all the mids you have the better. Of course marrying the right pups with the preamp is also important, Ive found having total control of all the mids may trump that by being able to precisely dial in that tone you like. Like you, I also like that "creamy horn" sound by bumping certain mid freq's in the "right" proportions, as well as a great slap tone by cutting them. Hopefully this will get me closer to my tonal goals, thanks Jake for all the updates you do with the WT basses, they are truly pieces of art!
 
#440
The flexcore has been on my radar, but I'm currently really happy with this setup. A few years back I had a roscoe fretlesa loaded with an Audere 4 band. I liked the dual mids, especially on a midrange rich bass like the roscoe (and I can only imagine a tj6 too). Ultimately I'm much happier with sweepable mids as it offers continuously variable control of the midrange, in my case between about 100-2k iirc. I could get by with 2 fixed mid points but I know that between different stages, backline rigs etc, those eq sweet spots are always in a little bit of motion.

All that said, I would love to check out your TJ6, with or without the flexcore!
 

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