Getting that many people together in one place just seems like a bad idea...
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Woodstock 99 documentary on Netflix
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Weird thing that I noticed about both the HBO and the Netflix documentaries. They wonder why guys were treating women the way they were at that. Of time. Have they totally forgotten that girls gone wild dvds were hawked relenlessly on cable in the late 90s?
I'm not saying that that is a good excuse for that kind of behavior, but when you make that an entertainment., you're going to get twisted results.
I had totally forgotten those, but now that you mention it, it does seem like behavior at concerts and such changed after those - at least in my experience.
I think the fact that aggressive music went mainstream also contributed.
Not a great combo.
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
Yeah, I was a kid in the 90s and everything (the adults at the time) threw out to pop media it had to have 'tude.
This same generation is also the one to start the push to remove demeaning and offensive language from mainstream society. A really hilarious way to push back against the previous generation, if you ask me.
There are festivals that are almost nothing but aggressive music and they are well run, pretty much drama free and have been for years.
I like aggressive music, but it’s not a good idea to throw that into the mix when you’re subjecting people to infuriating conditions.
Time and place for everything - avoid aggressive music when stuck in a traffic jam, avoid listening to industrial when you’re at the dentist having work done, etc.
The organizers didn't see the conditions as infuriating. They figured they were adequate, so they didn't care.
Well, given that they were 0-2 in terms of actually being able to manage a festival, that would seem to be the epitome of hubris.
Just watched it yesterday. For some reason, I had no idea Woodstock 99 was such a trainwreck.
The conditions of the festival grounds were horrifying, and Lang and especially Scher were so in denial, it hurt to watch.
The conditions of the festival grounds were horrifying, and Lang and especially Scher were so in denial, it hurt to watch.
I watched the whole series over the weekend. IMO, it was a perfect storm of "how many mistakes can we make?"
-inadequate security
-food vendor price gouging
-inadequate/poor maintenance on the porta johns
-too many acts in the "hostile" genre
-poor choice of location
-all the people in charge just holding the line on "nothing we can do"
-poor planning based on the assumption that all the attendees would have the same "peace and love" mindset from '69
What a crap show, so to speak.
-inadequate security
-food vendor price gouging
-inadequate/poor maintenance on the porta johns
-too many acts in the "hostile" genre
-poor choice of location
-all the people in charge just holding the line on "nothing we can do"
-poor planning based on the assumption that all the attendees would have the same "peace and love" mindset from '69
What a crap show, so to speak.
I was 15 was woodstock 99 happened and remember the news but wasn't there. I watched the documentary as well.
While i was not at that festival, i have attended a bunch of others between years 2000 and 2010. All hippy jam band festivals on the eastern side of the country, like All Good, Bonnaroo, etc. Some of the issues they showed in the doc were present at those festivals as well, like overflowing porta potties and hard to obtain drinking water. Add to that the heat, lack of sleep, and of course the drugs. I left just about every one of those festivals feeling like they brought out the worse in humanity. It's essentially seeing what can happen when people are allowed to do whatever they want with little to no actual accountability once they left the festival.
While i was not at that festival, i have attended a bunch of others between years 2000 and 2010. All hippy jam band festivals on the eastern side of the country, like All Good, Bonnaroo, etc. Some of the issues they showed in the doc were present at those festivals as well, like overflowing porta potties and hard to obtain drinking water. Add to that the heat, lack of sleep, and of course the drugs. I left just about every one of those festivals feeling like they brought out the worse in humanity. It's essentially seeing what can happen when people are allowed to do whatever they want with little to no actual accountability once they left the festival.
