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Working out in your 40s or older.

If you want to get strong, do barbell benches for chest. If you want to get huge though, dumbells are the way to go. That pretty much goes for shoulders too. And the other guys were right, none of this will happen for real if you leave out legs. Squats are key. If you could only ever do one exercise to train your whole body, squats would be it. It literally makes all of the major muscle groups work, whether it be as a stabilizer or a prime mover.
I would pick Deadlift over squats for a single exercise for IMHO it will activate the arms and grips more versus squats especially if you are using a squat rack to do squats.
 
If you want to get strong, do barbell benches for chest. If you want to get huge though, dumbells are the way to go. That pretty much goes for shoulders too. And the other guys were right, none of this will happen for real if you leave out legs. Squats are key. If you could only ever do one exercise to train your whole body, squats would be it. It literally makes all of the major muscle groups work, whether it be as a stabilizer or a prime mover.

Strong how? Benching doesn't do anything for pull strength.
 
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Strong how? Benching doesn't do anything for pull strength.

In general, the powerlifting vs. bodybuilding argument. I don't care if I can actually lift a house, I just want to look like I can. Bodybuilders, again in general, are bigger than their powerlifting counterparts. At least in my experience anyway. PS, anytime you want to meet me at the gym, I'll be glad to show you how strong I'm not. Although, I'll bury most anybody walking (regular people that is) around when it comes to muscle thickness. It's all about what your end goal is and figuring out what YOUR body needs to get there. Its not the same for everyone.
 
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If you are into pushups:-

You can build the devices pictured below for very little money. ( Refrigerater rollers...they come in different types)

Place hands on device and do "slider" pushups:- let hands/arms go out to sides while performing pushup. These give you more emphasis on Pecs than regular pushups.
Works fine on a hard surface but not great on carpet.
As you go down you slide them out. As you come up you slide them in.

These are tougher than normal generic pushups.

Hand placement also determines effectiveness of "normal" pushup (Pushups without using these rollers). If you place your hands close together at a point just below the sternum, there will be more emphasis on Triceps.
If you place your hands wider apart at shoulder level, there will be more emphasis on Pecs.

One advantage of pushups is :- you're working the Transverse Abdominus muscle ( muscle behind your six-pack) at the same time you are doing pushups. ( The effort required to keep your gut "flat" and not sagging while you are doing pushups.

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Some days I get bored with changing plates on bars and dumbells because of the time factor and also not having to wait between exes.

These dumbells are instantly adjustable and go to 52.2 lbs apiece.

They now have ones that go to 100 lbs apiece if I'm not mistaken.

I have never regretted buying these ever.

But you have to be careful to NOT drop them.....:woot:

I have rubber mats that I stack and use when exing with these.

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Aaaah yes...the good ol' Ab Wheel. Had a few of those in single wheel and double wheel.

Some people love' em. But I gotta say of all the exercises I've ever done, that one tops my 'hate' list.......:cool:

Just thinking about that ex makes me squirm....

There are various ways to "start out" on that ex. Few people can do a full complete one untrained out of the gate.

Gotta watch that one. It's an ab/core exercise but it can be hard on the back because of the Psoas muscle involvement.
 
Strength training is not the same as bodybuilding,cardio or endurance exercises.


The other thing about strength exes is the way you do them. Many will tout "full range of motion' when exercising. But you are never as strong in a full-range -of-motion ex as you are when the ex is modified for maximum mechanical leverage.
Which is why power lifters often have what looks to be a weird way of benching, squatting or deading. The idea is to cut the range of motion to the zone where the muscle is stongest in it's shortened travel path.

If you don't believe this ..test it out for yourself.

(1) Do a barbell curl --full range of motion--arms hanging down at bottom. Use the maximum weight you can use for one rep full range.

Now crook your arms to about 50 degrees hands higher than elbows and have someone place a barbell with more weight on it in your hands. You will be able to hold that weight stationary , but you wouldn't have got it up from the bottom , arms extended.

(2) Bench...try benching a weight F.R.O.M. to chest. Now try benching a weight where the bar is removed from yoke
and you only come down three inches and then re-rack. (Have a spotter around..in case things go wrong)

You'll be amazed at how much more weight you'll handle doing this.

(3) Rack Deads. do not lift from floor. Lift from a rack about pelvis height. Then lower weight about 4 inches (also bending legs) and then rerack. You can handle a greater weight.

(4) Chins....hang off a chin bar with chin level with bar. Use straps if you haven't got the grip strength. Chances are you'll be able be able to hold yourself in this position (maybe not very long if you're completely out of shape). Yet you find it impossible to pull yourself up from 'arms extended " position.

This is all to do with maximum muscular mechanical and leverage advantage. Your muscles are stronger in certain positions because of this.

In the lifter world these are known as "partials".

There is much controversy and if you go on bodybuilding sites they will argue it all day long.

But at the end of the day...the bottom line is :- you lifted more weight if you applied the technique over and above a full-range ex.

I liked to mix them up. Do both full range and partials. Get the best of both worlds.
 
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Some days I get bored with changing plates on bars and dumbells because of the time factor and also not having to wait between exes.

These dumbells are instantly adjustable and go to 52.2 lbs apiece.

They now have ones that go to 100 lbs apiece if I'm not mistaken.

I have never regretted buying these ever.

But you have to be careful to NOT drop them.....:woot:

I have rubber mats that I stack and use when exing with these.

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those are pretty cool