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Worship Bass Pedalboards

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micahwc said:
Hmm.

Now I'm also considering the Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Bass Big Muff. With a coupon code I can get one for $102. Probably a bit more than I need though.
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I had seen a youtube video of a Bass Clone into a Deluxe Bass Big Muff, or vice versa, and that sound got me interested too. Then I started to wonder if you could do something similar with other chorus and overdrive pedals ...
 
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It seems to be more of a fuzz sound than an overdrive, but with the ability to mix wet and dry signals adding just a hair of fuzz to a mostly clean signal would probably sound good.

There is also the Two Notes La Bass which sounds pretty interesting.

One of the things that annoys me about pedal demos on youtube is that most of them seem to just demo the wet sound with full distortion, very few of them demo the mixed sound. I live in a place where I will basically have to order whatever I want to try and hope I don't have to return it.
 
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I like the way the VMTD can add just a bit of hair to the tone but when I need more I use the Factotum. I'm subbing this weekend and there are a couple songs that call for more OD than I set in the VMTD. I am seriously thinking about getting the new Darkglass A/O Ultra to take the place of the Factotum. I got to listen to it at NAMM (in the few times it was quieter - NOT quiet, that does not happen at NAMM!) and really liked the drive you could get out of it.

Dan
 
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micahwc said:
Just to be clear, are we talking the $666 Damnation mbd-1 or the $99 Mooer mbd-1? I assume the one that's out of my budget.

And assuming so, if the AO and VMT are out, what about the B3K? It seems to me like on its lowest settings it would only be a touch of overdrive and would be completely useable. I know the B7K can make a delightful clean sound, but I'd rather not go that expensive on one pedal (although if I do I'm going Kraken all the way)
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Well surely you can't use a pedal that costs $666 on a worship pedal board! In an Iron Maiden tribute band, maybe.

I hear that pedal is a "beast"!
 
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TrevorR said:
Well surely you can't use a pedal that costs $666 on a worship pedal board! In an Iron Maiden tribute band, maybe.

I hear that pedal is a "beast"!
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:roflmao: I can definitely concur it's a beast! Plus, it has a trim pot inside...running mine at only 50%! The MBD-1 is a very large pedal, physically too.
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Didn't want to offend anyone on stage...;)
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micahwc said:
So I was referred to here from the Praise and Worship thread, and I'm sure you have already covered it, but what pedals are absolutely needed if you were building a pedal board from scratch.

This is what I'm thinking so far, please offer any advice and criticism.

Tuner, Turbo Tuner ST-300
Grit/distortion, Dark Glass B3K

Into my Fender rumble head which has onboard compression, distortion, and a DI. It's class D and small enough to fit on a larger pedal board. Add the channel switch for the rumble distortion, so I can have two distortions set up differently and foot switchable.

Thoughts?

Currently my church uses a Boss tuner into a Sansamp, and that's it. No extra grit, no anything, although I know they can add compression and reverb to the signal at the sound board.
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This discussion has galloped off into favourite pedal territory as this sort of forum discussion always does. My first thought is, there is no "absolutely needed". There is only "want" and "suitable to do what I want to do". So let's take one step back, surely the question is... what do you want to do? And what sounds do you want to create? When? On what songs?

All that is NEEDED is a cable and a simple DI box... but that's dull. So what are your desires and applications? For 20 or so years I never used effects. When I started playing I tried out compressors and limiters, flange and chorus. But after 5 or so years I ditched them all for just an amp (and bog standard DI when needed). I picked up a Wah about 15 years ago for three specific songs we did in the covers band I played in and it was only about 4ish years ago I started experimenting with effects in worship. Here's the board I've ended up with and my personal reasoning/requirements...
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So why these... In order of need priority... Tuner - 100% "need". Like the Boss TU-2/3 but love the PolyTune. Sansamp VTDI - very strong preference, almost need. Our previous WL had a desire to go amp free and ultimately IEM so I got this as a preamp/amp & speaker sim. I'd used various borrowed Sansamp before so went straight for this one. I run it pretty much clean in Ampeg B15 mode, which suits my preference. I've never been one for heavily overdriven basses. People complain about it having a "baked in" tone but since that is Ampeg B15 and SVT (+silly distortion mode I'll never use)... I don't see the problem. From here on in its all discretionary for me.

Chorus & Tremolo - my 25 year old CE-2B resurrected and EHX tremolo. These are for subtle dynamic effects to give some different flavour to sections of certain songs. For example, chorus on a slow ballad or trem on a downbeat bridge with long sustained notes. Also good for ambient noodling behind a speaker with the treble/attack rolled off. Wah - I like the Morley because of its two modes, conventional Wah and funk mode which is more akin to an envelope filter. Back in the early 2000s when the band were playing those 3 songs I could never find an auto Wah out envelope filter pedal which reacted dynamically in the way I wanted/liked so manual (?podular?) seemed the way to go. I love the sound of this pedal in small doses. In worship I use it to give a synthy sound for EDM style basslines (Let Praise Awaken, Alive etc). Which is where the Overdrive comes in. I don't have a need for distortion and would never use an always on OD. I deliberately bought the Bass Soul Food because it is such a low gain pedal and because it has a blend control. It just adds a touch of square/sawtooth into the Wah to enhance the synth type effect. I do rarely bung it on to liven up a rocky number (You Are Good, Shout For Joy) but not much...

So that's why my board looks like this... no compressor, no octave, no distortion, no phaser, no whatever... because they aren't tones/effects I want or need. What are your specs? Best to ask that question before you start buying stuff!

And yes, most online demos are really frustrating "everything up to 11" affairs.
 
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micahwc said:
So I was referred to here from the Praise and Worship thread, and I'm sure you have already covered it, but what pedals are absolutely needed if you were building a pedal board from scratch.

This is what I'm thinking so far, please offer any advice and criticism.

Tuner, Turbo Tuner ST-300
Grit/distortion, Dark Glass B3K

Into my Fender rumble head which has onboard compression, distortion, and a DI. It's class D and small enough to fit on a larger pedal board. Add the channel switch for the rumble distortion, so I can have two distortions set up differently and foot switchable.

Thoughts?

Currently my church uses a Boss tuner into a Sansamp, and that's it. No extra grit, no anything, although I know they can add compression and reverb to the signal at the sound board.
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Man I went through the whole effects pedal stage. I wanted octaves, fuzzes, distortions, compressors, delays, etc...

And came back to a small pedal board. Polytune3>DG SuperSymmetry>DG Alpha Omega.

Why? Because to everyone else other than yourself. The bass is gonna sound like bass. Very few will notice a difference between effects especially if your have multiple guitars and keys. You won't cut through the mix and the money wasn't worth it to me. I invested in my guitar, my amp(Ampeg V4B and Ampeg SVT212AV) and those pedals.
 
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Colton said:
Man I went through the whole effects pedal stage. I wanted octaves, fuzzes, distortions, compressors, delays, etc...

And came back to a small pedal board. Polytune3>DG SuperSymmetry>DG Alpha Omega.
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That's why I'm gonna try one Neunaber Expanse stereo programmable delay, and try running it stereo to the board (two channels - left and right). Otherwise primarily compressor and light overdrive. The low end will still go to subs, which is mono ...
 
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@micahwc consider, if you're going to get (1) pedal only, The Accountant might be a good choice. It's a dirty compressor, so it can give you some mild grind, and it's also a fun, easy to use compressor. Just a thought from my experience. Your DI is in your amp? How big is your system? Dedicated subs? Do you guys use IEMs?
 
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At church we use IEMs and house sound only in one of two rooms, both of which hold like 800 people.

At home Or gigging I have a Fender Rumble 500 head into two Rumble 15" subs, or a diy 5cf 212 loaded with eminence basslite S2012s

I ordered the tuner today. I'll be ordering an overdrive pedal probably on Friday. Just turned in my taxes, came in $7800 under budget. Whooo!!

So, I need an overdrive of some kind, a DI of some kind, and a compressor of some kind. I'm open to the DI and overdrive being in the same pedal.

Any experiences with the Eden World Tour, Mesa Subway, or Aguilar Tone Hammer DIs?
 
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micahwc said:
Any experiences with the Aguilar Tone Hammer DIs?
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I think that the Aguilar tone is a love it or hate it tone. I REALLY wanted to love the Tone Hammer (I owned 3 of them at different points in time) but it never really clicked with me. If YOU love the tone, GREAT! Just not for me.

Dan
 
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For fun last night I plugged the tube preamp section from my Orange Micro Dark into the power section of my Rumble 500, played at 4 ohms through two 15" rumble subs.

It sounds really good. It's also so loud that the volume has to be at basically 1 if the gain is up at all, or the gain has to be at 1 if the volume is up at all.

I may have to put it on the board as well, but I'll need to add a switch.
 

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