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Interesting. What are your thoughts on the button caps? What kind do you use?
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Worship Bass Pedalboards
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I use the Link Removed brand and I find them to be a necessity. I definitely do practice barefoot a lot of the time, and with shoes on it gives a much nicer feel under your foot and a better target to aim for. Yeah, they cost a few $ more than the cheap plastic ones or the Chinese knockoffs, but they work fantastic and I order directly from them.
The one thing this is harder to see in my picture is that the red button on the tuner and the clear one on the Diabolik are the tall versions. Having that allows you to get your foot above the dials and better access if there is a pedal further away from you or tucked behind another. The brass one on the Keeley is the standard height one since I don't turn it off except to check for gain. The clear on the chorus is also standard because that button is already tall. I also stand on the Eich Bassboard with the pedal board below and in front of me and it helps put them at level with my foot by not having to step down. I just put my order in for the mini version for the Hotone pedals so it helps with clearance because those things are tiny!
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Just got them on my board today. The phaser is good fun with a lot of options. The octave is a little more limited, but it's fun to tinker with so far. I'll give an updated review once I've played around more.
jacoby75
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Bringing the thunder up north to Manistee, MI, this morning. Pedalboard 3.0. I think I've finally gotten the right combination and everything dialed in perfectly. Best . . . tone . . . ever. I'm done (he says, realizing he'll probably never ACTUALLY stop buying pedals.)
So far, so good with the pedals. I used both of them today for a couple small sections on two songs. They aren't going to get smashed too much, so I can't really attest to their durability yet. All I can say is that they both feel like two little lead weights, easily heavier than anything else on my board. I didn't have my Barefoot Buttons on them yet, but they are designed well enough to where the little bar prevents your foot from hitting the dials and the button should help it even more.
Well my whole board design just got changed and I'm upgrading to a slightly larger one to accommodate a Trace Elliot ELF that I'm going to attempt to use to power my Bassboard. The goal is to have everything contained on one board since I will at some point be faced with the challenge of breaking it all down within about 5 min to get it off stage. This will also give me space to switch the effects out if the need arises.
**EDIT** This board seems to be changing on a daily basis. I almost sold off the Diabolik for a B:Assmaster, but the seller wouldn't take my offer and ended up selling it for $5 more. No joke! Oh well! Decided to keep it and then ordered a Darkglass Vintage Microtubes because I want some kind of toned down overdrive and I like the demos I heard. I plan to add my SansAmp BDDI back to the board for some additional tone shaping since it has an EQ. I'm getting really excited to make this upgrade once all the components get here.
**EDIT** This board seems to be changing on a daily basis. I almost sold off the Diabolik for a B:Assmaster, but the seller wouldn't take my offer and ended up selling it for $5 more. No joke! Oh well! Decided to keep it and then ordered a Darkglass Vintage Microtubes because I want some kind of toned down overdrive and I like the demos I heard. I plan to add my SansAmp BDDI back to the board for some additional tone shaping since it has an EQ. I'm getting really excited to make this upgrade once all the components get here.
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Still waiting on the Trace Elliot ELF, tray to mount the power supply, and a power cable, but this is the work in progress so far. The board is a Rockboard QUAD 4.1. The one minor modification I made was to add a handle to each side to make it easier to get in and out of the case. I'll post another photo once it's all done.
jacoby75
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The new Rockboard series is very well made. The importers are finally getting a healthy stock of their products in inventory and I'd give anything they make a hard look. With the way the holes are cut it provides an excellent way to cleanly route cables, even more so than the VooDoo Labs Dingbat that this replaced.
This is the Pedal Pad right? If so, what is the weight empty, with the lid on? I can't find anything listed anywhere for weight on these. Thanks!
Yes, it is a Pedal Pad. Beautifully made, and a bit on the heavy side. Not sure about the empty weight, but with the Aetos, and no pedals, it is slightly above 17 lbs. Mine is the 20" wide.
Mine will likely be on the market soon. PM if interested. My WT situation has changed, and I typically can get by with my Metro 20 or 24.
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***EDIT*** THE PEDALS HAVE NOW CHANGED
The new board is finally up and running after waiting for a whole bunch of the components to arrive
It's currently set up as followed -
Rockboard Quad 4.1
Rockboard MOD 1 patch bay
It's all sitting in its really nice road case of which I'm glad I spent the extra on over the gig bag
Signal chain -
- Bass input to front patch bay A >
- Patch bay A rear >
- ST-300 Turbo tuner >
- Keeley Bassist >
- SaturnWorks Bass active 2:4 splitter input 1 (under board)
- Splitter output 1a to patch bay rear D (dry signal + Keeley)
- Splitter output 1b to Hotone Octaver >
- Malekko Diabolik >
- Darkglass Vintage Mictrotubes >
- SansAmp BDDI >
- Hotone Phaze >
- MXR Bass Chorus >
- SaturnWorks Bass active 2:4 splitter input 2
- Splitter output 2a to Mesa Subway Preamp/DI
- Mesa DI to FOH post eq
- Mesa thru to patch bay rear B
- Splitter output 2b to Trace Elliot ELF
- ELF to Eich Bassboard
Power is an AccelAudio FX Power Source 8. It took some trial and error to figure out the appropriate way to split 10 pedals using only 8 outputs. Everything has a different mAh rating and a few of them are very picky if you try and put them on a splitter. The BDDI, Diabolik, and the Hotone pedals all needed to be totally isolated.
Oh and the Barefoot Buttons! Everyone needs them!
What I was trying to achieve in this somewhat complicated setup is this -
1. Have a central location where everything plugs in. This helps to reduce wear and tear on individual pedals and makes it very quick to set up and take down.
2. Have the ability to bypass the entire chain except for the tuner and compressor or to split that signal out in conjunction with the wet signal.
3. Have individual wet and dry signal outputs. Since the Mesa is an unaffected thru out I can use patch B to send it to an external amp and speaker cab if the need arises.
4. Contain the power amp for the Bassboard on my pedal board so I have less things to tear down. This also works as an amp to run a speaker cab if I do not need the Bassboard...or it can run both.
Basically the only three pedals I actually need are the tuner, compressor, and the Mesa DI. The rest are for fun and get used when I feel like it. The bottom left half of the board has kind of been reserved for when I want to switch something out, which will likely be happening sooner than later, and the Diabolik might also find its way into the reserve pile even though it's the fuzz pedal from hell and I like it.
The new board is finally up and running after waiting for a whole bunch of the components to arrive
It's currently set up as followed -
Rockboard Quad 4.1
Rockboard MOD 1 patch bay
It's all sitting in its really nice road case of which I'm glad I spent the extra on over the gig bag
Signal chain -
- Bass input to front patch bay A >
- Patch bay A rear >
- ST-300 Turbo tuner >
- Keeley Bassist >
- SaturnWorks Bass active 2:4 splitter input 1 (under board)
- Splitter output 1a to patch bay rear D (dry signal + Keeley)
- Splitter output 1b to Hotone Octaver >
- Malekko Diabolik >
- Darkglass Vintage Mictrotubes >
- SansAmp BDDI >
- Hotone Phaze >
- MXR Bass Chorus >
- SaturnWorks Bass active 2:4 splitter input 2
- Splitter output 2a to Mesa Subway Preamp/DI
- Mesa DI to FOH post eq
- Mesa thru to patch bay rear B
- Splitter output 2b to Trace Elliot ELF
- ELF to Eich Bassboard
Power is an AccelAudio FX Power Source 8. It took some trial and error to figure out the appropriate way to split 10 pedals using only 8 outputs. Everything has a different mAh rating and a few of them are very picky if you try and put them on a splitter. The BDDI, Diabolik, and the Hotone pedals all needed to be totally isolated.
Oh and the Barefoot Buttons! Everyone needs them!
What I was trying to achieve in this somewhat complicated setup is this -
1. Have a central location where everything plugs in. This helps to reduce wear and tear on individual pedals and makes it very quick to set up and take down.
2. Have the ability to bypass the entire chain except for the tuner and compressor or to split that signal out in conjunction with the wet signal.
3. Have individual wet and dry signal outputs. Since the Mesa is an unaffected thru out I can use patch B to send it to an external amp and speaker cab if the need arises.
4. Contain the power amp for the Bassboard on my pedal board so I have less things to tear down. This also works as an amp to run a speaker cab if I do not need the Bassboard...or it can run both.
Basically the only three pedals I actually need are the tuner, compressor, and the Mesa DI. The rest are for fun and get used when I feel like it. The bottom left half of the board has kind of been reserved for when I want to switch something out, which will likely be happening sooner than later, and the Diabolik might also find its way into the reserve pile even though it's the fuzz pedal from hell and I like it.
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Unfortunately, our team generally consists of a piano, acoustic guitar, and drums. Occasionally keyboard and electric guitar is added. Most of the musicians have what I call "traditional" church music style. There is really a lack of "fullness" to the sound most sets. I try to add as much depth to the sound as possible with this setup.
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Just added the LS2, which lets me keep the MS-60b in a loop, as well as a running my synth into the chain and through the Sansamp.
I've been pretty happy with this config the past few Sundays. We'll see if it lasts. I have a larger board I've been playing at putting together but I'm not sure it's worth it.
jacoby75
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So here's a question for you:
What kind of headphone/in-ears are those of you who run ampless using to monitor your sound? I recently went through a time of buying and trying some drive pedals, and they all wind up sounding about the same to me through my headphone setup. I do have the OCSD, which helps with my direct-only drive tone tremendously, and is a must-have, and I monitor through the built-in headphone amp. But I feel like whether it's an overdrive, distortion or a fuzz pedal, in the end they wind up sounding and behaving very similar direct. You can't get the gain up past about 9:00 before the whole thing just turns to a giant fart. It kind of defeats the purpose of even trying to HAVE different drive pedals, in my opinion. After my most recent bout of purchases, I'm back to my old standby's, the Darkglass VMT and my MXR M80 DI+ (used solely as a distortion pedal). They both sound pretty good to me, if you keep the gain knob under control. Nothing else has sounded different enough to justify keeping. I recently tried a fuzz (SolidgoldFX Imperial), which is probably a great fuzz, but it sounds like a$$ through my headphones. I also recently tried a Bearfoot Blueberry, which is a great preamp pedal, but I can get the same exact tone out of my VT Bass DI, if I tweak the knobs just right. But maybe in a different setup the two might sound different enough to justify having both of them, for example.
But I'm starting to think maybe the issue is in the headphones I'm trying to use to monitor them. I have some newer Samson studio monitor headphones that I got on sale, which work well overall, but my drives sound pretty different in them than they do in my AKG(?) dual drive in ear monitors. And they don't sound GREAT in either. Being that I'm not currently playing anywhere, I don't have the opportunity to gauge what my stuff sounds like through an actual PA. All I have to go on are the headphones.
What are you guys/girls using, and do you wind up liking how drive pedals sound through them as you are trying to dial in your tone before showing up on a Sunday morning?
What kind of headphone/in-ears are those of you who run ampless using to monitor your sound? I recently went through a time of buying and trying some drive pedals, and they all wind up sounding about the same to me through my headphone setup. I do have the OCSD, which helps with my direct-only drive tone tremendously, and is a must-have, and I monitor through the built-in headphone amp. But I feel like whether it's an overdrive, distortion or a fuzz pedal, in the end they wind up sounding and behaving very similar direct. You can't get the gain up past about 9:00 before the whole thing just turns to a giant fart. It kind of defeats the purpose of even trying to HAVE different drive pedals, in my opinion. After my most recent bout of purchases, I'm back to my old standby's, the Darkglass VMT and my MXR M80 DI+ (used solely as a distortion pedal). They both sound pretty good to me, if you keep the gain knob under control. Nothing else has sounded different enough to justify keeping. I recently tried a fuzz (SolidgoldFX Imperial), which is probably a great fuzz, but it sounds like a$$ through my headphones. I also recently tried a Bearfoot Blueberry, which is a great preamp pedal, but I can get the same exact tone out of my VT Bass DI, if I tweak the knobs just right. But maybe in a different setup the two might sound different enough to justify having both of them, for example.
But I'm starting to think maybe the issue is in the headphones I'm trying to use to monitor them. I have some newer Samson studio monitor headphones that I got on sale, which work well overall, but my drives sound pretty different in them than they do in my AKG(?) dual drive in ear monitors. And they don't sound GREAT in either. Being that I'm not currently playing anywhere, I don't have the opportunity to gauge what my stuff sounds like through an actual PA. All I have to go on are the headphones.
What are you guys/girls using, and do you wind up liking how drive pedals sound through them as you are trying to dial in your tone before showing up on a Sunday morning?
In my experience with using headphones vs IEM's, what you are hearing through the headphones is their built in voicing curve. Most of them have a V shape of some sort with extended bass and treble and it's just not going to sound "flat" like it really needs to be. It's great for listening to mastered music, but not so much for live tone. I'm using Westone AM 30's and most of our team are using Shure 215's. The WL's are using custom molded 64 Audio multidrivers and one has the Westone UM 20's. I use a small mixer with my pedalboard (see above) to practice and help dial things in. Of course, that only goes so far in an actual live mix but I can hear everything very clearly and I think it helps to have it run through a mixer like it would for a service.
Your AKG's are probably a lot closer to what the neutral tone is vs headphones.
