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Worship Bass Pedalboards

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Luke the Fluke said:
for me - we don't use any amps and use in ear monitoring - I found that DI non fender style bass to a team of amateur pa folk with a new digital desk wasn't great for anyone.

my effects give me a little more control over eq and other than that send a more polished amp like signal to the desk so it can slot in thr mix easier
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+1 If you don't have an amp on stage then you are relying totally upon the sound desk to give you your sound, If you feed them the sound you expect to hear, there's a good chance that it will be passed through the system as is. If you rely on them to apply effects, then in 99% of cases, sorry, out of luck! The blokes on desk are not mind readers so their job is basically just to present the sound "as received". FWIW, I do not use effects either, but I do see the benefit.
 
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gary mitchell said:
I have used effects when I have played guitar but never playing bass. I have now been playing bass on our worship team 15 years and have never found the need to use any effects. We also play up to date worship music old and modern. Can you tell me what you get from using effects playing bass. I am like I said a guitar player and I do like a good reverb also a little delay playing some lead parts. But bass I don't know.
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Some of us don't get to use amps, silent stage and IEMs. My board is my amp tone primarily, with the option to play through different amps or effects to better match the tone of the song as it was intended by the artist. I can play any of them "straight through an amp" with no effects like eating plain spaghetti and sauce, but if the chef intended to make lasagna, then plain spaghetti is not the same. If the artist used effects, then that was how they intended their music to sound, so I will try to emulate that when I perform their piece of art.
 
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I guess I am very blessed I have a monitor but I also get to use an amp. The amp I use is a GK MB II 15 combo and they come out of it to the board. If it wasn't that way maybe I would do something different. I hope you guys don't take me wrong I have nothing against using pedals I just don't use them myself. I use to get crazy with them. When I played guitar and played Christian rock and metal , I went from effect pedals to a rack system and a midi pedal , and I got really depending on that stuff. Now I just want to play and worship Jesus who knows someday I might get back in it . I still have a Delay and EQ an Octave and an old Keeley compressor laying around gathering dust on a shelf somewhere. I kept thinking my grandson when he got a little older might like to try and play around with them. The compressor I bought cause the sound man thought I needed it but ended up I did not and I am glad probably got to be a better man then me to set it right maybe but I hated it. The sound man tried to set it the way he thought it should be set anyway he learned how to adjust the sound board amen. And over the years he has gotten to be a pretty good sound man.
 
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Luke the Fluke said:
for me - we don't use any amps and use in ear monitoring - I found that DI non fender style bass to a team of amateur pa folk with a new digital desk wasn't great for anyone.

my effects give me a little more control over eq and other than that send a more polished amp like signal to the desk so it can slot in thr mix easier
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^Very much this. My effects allow me to send as perfect (in my opinion) of a tone as possible to the inexperienced, underqualified volunteer FOH people so all they have to do is turn it up.
 
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All my gigs are silent stage/DI/IEM so I get it. I have been using my Empress/REDDI rig for a coupe years now and it kills. Never really needed effects but can see the allure. I did use chorus as I had it available to me last Sunday. It got a look or two.

The allure to me is the "all in one" factor. Th endless options are a bonus right now as I really just use one good sound for everything. Would thy change if I had one of these myself? Maybe.
 
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Brydav said:
How do y'all get the FOH ppl to turn up the bass without coming across conceited? we have two FOH ppl that rotate. One turns it up pretty good, the other does not and it's frustrating.
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life is better if you accept the fact that some weeks thr only person who will hear you is you…
Why bother playing? Well if you just take it that your role leading worship is to play for yourself all the angst goes…

then you start gently talking to the pa team. Try cutting your low end - so many people listen to music on tvs laptops and cheaper hi fi that they aren't used to hearing actual low end, ask about where they have slotted you in the mix and and see where you get.

I've had weeks where I've not really been in the FOH and realised half the band didn't have their IEM either… ild be lying if I didn't say I was raging

Logic_11 said:
Wow, so fresh and so clean clean
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Ain't nobody as dope as me? …
 
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So I am quite fortunate that between myself and the other 4 other main sound techs that we have a combined 130 years of experience (10 of which are mine). Sound engineers typically don't want to be told how to mix in the same way a bassist would not want an engineer to tell them how to play. What I have found helps bridge the gap and create understanding is setting up your rig at FOH and hearing how you sound from the sound techs vantage point. You would be amazed to hear how different your IEMs and house sound can be.
For example, I was running a Sansamp BDDI for a while and thought it sounded killer in my ears. I ended up plugging my whole rig into the console and hearing it from the booth (with a completely flat strip) and it sounded exceptionally muddy, and that is with an acoustically treated auditorium.

Luke the Fluke said:
I've had weeks where I've not really been in the FOH and realised half the band didn't have their IEM either… ild be lying if I didn't say I was raging
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Not being in the FOH is frustrating, but I have never given much attention to who has me in their ears. When we do monitors, I think at most maybe 2 people have me in their ears.
 
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I have the Stomp set up at church with a setting that everyone likes and sounds good. There's a Rolls box next to it for IEM's. There's a Dave Combo cable and a guitar stand. All that will live there and be available for whomever (mostly me for now) is playing.

As for my my personal/cover band work, I think I am going to just keep what I have for now. It sounds amazing. It's not THAT bad to carry in the Pelican case and set up. All my cables are made to fit this set up. The couple weeks of circular logic and analysis paralysis has wore me out mentally. Gonna forget about it for a while and just play and enjoy the amazing sound of my basses.
 
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SteveC said:
I have the Stomp set up at church with a setting that everyone likes and sounds good. There's a Rolls box next to it for IEM's. There's a Dave Combo cable and a guitar stand. All that will live there and be available for whomever (mostly me for now) is playing.

As for my my personal/cover band work, I think I am going to just keep what I have for now. It sounds amazing. It's not THAT bad to carry in the Pelican case and set up. All my cables are made to fit this set up. The couple weeks of circular logic and analysis paralysis has wore me out mentally. Gonna forget about it for a while and just play and enjoy the amazing sound of my basses.
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For me, I never have spare pedals lying around for my bass rig. If I own it, it is on my small pedalboard. Keeps things real simple and it gets rid of the desire to "try" something on a whim. If I want a new drive pedal, I have to sell my current one. The only exception to that would be pedals that are utility such as the new Empress ParaEq (pre-ordered) and a DI.
 
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New Sweetfoot power supply. One cord, one outlet to power the Stomp.

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Naack said:
For me, I never have spare pedals lying around for my bass rig. If I own it, it is on my small pedalboard. Keeps things real simple and it gets rid of the desire to "try" something on a whim. If I want a new drive pedal, I have to sell my current one. The only exception to that would be pedals that are utility such as the new Empress ParaEq (pre-ordered) and a DI.
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I don't know that making the switch to an HX Stomp or similar is a whim, but I do keep it simple by going no larger than a Nano board. It fits in the Pelican case with my REDDI. I have a Tuner, my Rolls box for my wired IEM's, my Empress Bass Compressor and a Bass Soul Food (replaced the Big Muff) for some drive when I want it.
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