Hopkins
Commercial User
Seriously, how exactly are headphones going to solve anything when complaints are being made while the OP is sleeping or not even at home.
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Worst neighbour ever.
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1. You and your buddy should both use headphones.
2, Go to your neighbor and show him you are going to be using headphones whenever you practice.
3. Tell him the next time he hears the noise; he should verify which other tenant is making the noise before he calls the security guard or cops. In all likelihood, there's another neighbor watching a movie or playing video games using surround sound.
4. If the these don't work, find a sleazy lawyer get him to send a letter advising them cease and desist slandering you.
5. Contact the officer who came out on the noise complaint. Ask him if he heard loud noise coming from your apartment. Then explain you want to know because you and your roomie were out of town and no body else has access other that the landlord.
2, Go to your neighbor and show him you are going to be using headphones whenever you practice.
3. Tell him the next time he hears the noise; he should verify which other tenant is making the noise before he calls the security guard or cops. In all likelihood, there's another neighbor watching a movie or playing video games using surround sound.
4. If the these don't work, find a sleazy lawyer get him to send a letter advising them cease and desist slandering you.
5. Contact the officer who came out on the noise complaint. Ask him if he heard loud noise coming from your apartment. Then explain you want to know because you and your roomie were out of town and no body else has access other that the landlord.
It provides proof the noise is coming from another apartment or the OP has Satan as a 3rd roomie.
Hopkins
Commercial User
I lived in apartments for about 10-15 years, and have seen (ok, mostly heard) a lot of crazy behavior. Major were the times a tenant in an adjacent apartment played loud, tasteless music at all hours. Complained to tenants, police, and landlords with mixed results. Usually I invited noisy neighbors to my place to listen for themselves. Now I have a house, but am still quieter than I used to be.
I'd always thought I was OK; using headphones for playing and listening to music. One time, late at night I was doing some copy photography with a Mamiya 645 camera, thinking everything was OK. My downstairs neighbor knocked on the door, we talked, I went downstairs, and found out that a seemingly quiet little click of the shutter sounded like a loud clunk at their end.
I'm saying that there is no accounting for another persons definition of disturbing noise, and that we need to be aware of their comfort levels, as well as their prejudices.
Tom
I'd always thought I was OK; using headphones for playing and listening to music. One time, late at night I was doing some copy photography with a Mamiya 645 camera, thinking everything was OK. My downstairs neighbor knocked on the door, we talked, I went downstairs, and found out that a seemingly quiet little click of the shutter sounded like a loud clunk at their end.
I'm saying that there is no accounting for another persons definition of disturbing noise, and that we need to be aware of their comfort levels, as well as their prejudices.
Tom
Just because the OP isn't making the noise doesn't mean the other person isn't hearing noise. He like you is assuming he knows who is making the noise. I am thinking apartment soundproofing is about a non-existent as it was when I lived in an apartment. We could hear the couple in the adding building with her moaning and calling to God like she was next door.
Headphones WOULD have helped this guy in this case actually. I lived in the same apartment for about 5 years and I was probably legally insane by the time I moved out of it from the lack of courtesy displayed by neighbors. As a young single guy I played video games with headphones on.. felt bad if my TV was too loud and walked on the balls of my feet to avoid waking people up with my insomnia, only played through my amp when the sun was out and that was rare, because I would use guess what headphones. Nobody has ever given me a "noise complaint", other than the time I snapped on the asian lady next door who would ritually beat on my walls at 3 and 5 AM on the dot every night for about 4 months (i lost a job losing sleep from this.) Literally like "You go to HERRRRR!!!! You Call cops! You call FBI i no care!" followed by some obscenities from myself indicating my um.. disdain. Every single neighbor that lived above me walked like an elephant.. despite some even being like 120lbs tops? people would slam doors..
I'm not calling the OP a bad guy. I'm just saying you're in a shared community building and the fact that nobody stops to think about other peoples ears and their castle directly beneath or beside them is precisely why this person is blaming you now every noise she hears on you. I'm not saying the plaintiff is correct in their actions... they're probably going a little cooky.. it happens when you have to 5 walls with other people in them, waking you up, being so loud that you can't hear your own tv, shaking your house... a good dose of peace and quiet is good for everyone.
I have since moved into a house and I love it, there was a dog that woke me up every night for a few month recently but the neighbors informed she's since passed away, at which point I apologized for my half dream-state induced comments out of my bed room window knowing I wasn't reaching back into that REM sleep anytime soon. I'm not saying I handled things right. I'm not proud of me. But.. sleep deprivation is a form of torture.. he's all like "next time come over and say something if we're waking you up" and while I understand that - How about, neighbor, you have a little bit of respect for your community and realize that some people NEED some peace and quiet in this noisy world and wouldn't dream of disturbing the only place where you might actually find it. Even in my house, I don't let my band play here, it's not sound proof.
My opinion - talk it over with your apt manager, let them know you've been trying, and in good faith find another apt complex to move into or rent a HOUSE and at least have SOme space between you and other neighbors. Make sure you aren't slamming around on your heels with every step.. and if you ever live in an apartment again try to be the good guy, use headphones, walk lightly, you don't need a huge subwoofer + exotic stereo system if your hind end is broke enough to be living in a small apartment. There are better uses for ones money.
A lot of these comments aren't specifically aimed at anybody but the various people I've developed a firm hatred for by living next to them.
Edited for specification - Playing with headphones would have stopped him from ever being claimed as the source of the "problems" in the first place.. hence..no cops called on HIM when he wasn't home.
I'm not calling the OP a bad guy. I'm just saying you're in a shared community building and the fact that nobody stops to think about other peoples ears and their castle directly beneath or beside them is precisely why this person is blaming you now every noise she hears on you. I'm not saying the plaintiff is correct in their actions... they're probably going a little cooky.. it happens when you have to 5 walls with other people in them, waking you up, being so loud that you can't hear your own tv, shaking your house... a good dose of peace and quiet is good for everyone.
I have since moved into a house and I love it, there was a dog that woke me up every night for a few month recently but the neighbors informed she's since passed away, at which point I apologized for my half dream-state induced comments out of my bed room window knowing I wasn't reaching back into that REM sleep anytime soon. I'm not saying I handled things right. I'm not proud of me. But.. sleep deprivation is a form of torture.. he's all like "next time come over and say something if we're waking you up" and while I understand that - How about, neighbor, you have a little bit of respect for your community and realize that some people NEED some peace and quiet in this noisy world and wouldn't dream of disturbing the only place where you might actually find it. Even in my house, I don't let my band play here, it's not sound proof.
My opinion - talk it over with your apt manager, let them know you've been trying, and in good faith find another apt complex to move into or rent a HOUSE and at least have SOme space between you and other neighbors. Make sure you aren't slamming around on your heels with every step.. and if you ever live in an apartment again try to be the good guy, use headphones, walk lightly, you don't need a huge subwoofer + exotic stereo system if your hind end is broke enough to be living in a small apartment. There are better uses for ones money.
A lot of these comments aren't specifically aimed at anybody but the various people I've developed a firm hatred for by living next to them.
Edited for specification - Playing with headphones would have stopped him from ever being claimed as the source of the "problems" in the first place.. hence..no cops called on HIM when he wasn't home.
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Same here except then my wife tells me to put on the headphones because I drown out her TV.I live alone in my own house. Closest neighbor is 150 yds away. I can play anytime with volume.
SirMjac28
Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion
Think of it as motivation for getting your own home or at least renting one. I want you to visualize that guard pounding on your door every time you think about?
1. buying some new gear
2. buying a pair of clothing you really don't need
3.going out to eat a meal that's marginally better than one you could make at home
4. getting liquored up on top shelf booze
5. loaning money to your broke friends
6. any type of gambling including lottery tickets
7. getting the more expensive toilet paper (it's not like you're going to reuse it)
8. buying expensive gifts, you should instead make all of your birthday,holiday,graduation and anniversary gifts out of stuff you find lying around
9. shopping at IKEA and buying furniture that once again you could make from stuff lying around
10.giving that guard a Christmas tip
I want you to whistle and smile at that guard every day and when you finally move out come back with this.
And blast this
1. buying some new gear
2. buying a pair of clothing you really don't need
3.going out to eat a meal that's marginally better than one you could make at home
4. getting liquored up on top shelf booze
5. loaning money to your broke friends
6. any type of gambling including lottery tickets
7. getting the more expensive toilet paper (it's not like you're going to reuse it)
8. buying expensive gifts, you should instead make all of your birthday,holiday,graduation and anniversary gifts out of stuff you find lying around
9. shopping at IKEA and buying furniture that once again you could make from stuff lying around
10.giving that guard a Christmas tip
I want you to whistle and smile at that guard every day and when you finally move out come back with this.
And blast this
Stop right there: the OP got the cops called on him when he was ON VACATION.
Under no circumstances would headphones have helped him there.
I didn't read the rest of your wall of text.
I would tell the guard that if he doesn't have a formal complaint, to do his job and not bother me again or I'll be reporting him for harassment. When you have a noise complaint against you (although luckily you weren't home and that's even more insane), the person filing the complaint has to appear in court. At least that's how it works in Kansas. That guard works for you. You pay rent there. I would complain to the management immediately. Absolutely ridiculous.
And people who are saying they don't want to hear other people practice. Get over yourselves. Last I checked this was a free country and as long as you're not breaking any laws, it's nobodies business how you practice.
And people who are saying they don't want to hear other people practice. Get over yourselves. Last I checked this was a free country and as long as you're not breaking any laws, it's nobodies business how you practice.
Here in Australia, there is no "legal cut off time"
You can have complaints about noise made at anytime. Police are required to respond, irregardless of the time of day.
Well, the OP is in Taiwan, how they handle these things might be completely different then Kansas or the rest of the States. But, I do agree, as far as I'm concerned the guard needs to STFU.
Didn't notice the Taiwan part. I just read that the noise laws apply before 7:30 am and after 10:00 pm. So either way that guard is a jerk.
It's really quite funny to read some of the suggestions. I really hope that it doesn't go so far as having to prove an alibi with cheesy gig posters in civil court, lol.
Wow, I'd go crazy if I didn't have some acreage separating me from people. We can jam as loud as we want, and then step outside to take a piss and shoot a gun for the hell of it. Ahh, one of the good things about West Virginia.
My neighbors have called the Poe Poe on me a few times, and I live in the country, but the last time, the officer said, "damn you really can rock!" I respect that he is doing his job, and he respected that I was doing mine. You can only do what you can do. It is a real problem though if they call and your not even playing. Maybe talk to him and explain that you were sleeping and not even playing, if he doesn't listen or care, maybe he has a mental issue. Either way it sucks! Rock on my friend! Rock on!
Then you don't understand the point and just replied to my post for no valid reason... point is, had he not been blasting his bass at times past his neighbor would have no reason to suspect him. Thanks for being a great example of humanity's lack of courtesy brohaps.
By the way.. I stop where I want to stop. I'd advise you refrain from responding to posts you aren't actually going to put the effort into reading in the future.
I would simply get 2-3 5$ cameras and have them monitor your appartment when you are not home. Next time you get a complaint for when you are not home, make a complaint for harassment. Complain to the building owner/management about the guard. Complain to the police about the guard (harassment, intimidation, etc.). Get him fired, get him arrested if need be.
I live in a home but have close neighbours (semi detached). I lived in a condo before. I hate noise from my neighbours, I also would hate to inconvenience them. Maybe you did make too much noise one time, now, you addressed it and stopped, time for your neighbours and building management to address their own issues with insane tenants and building guards. Once that crap starts (insane neighbours, guards with Rambo complexes), it never ends. Next thing you know, people are complaining about the colour of your shoes and the smell of your cooking.
I live in a home but have close neighbours (semi detached). I lived in a condo before. I hate noise from my neighbours, I also would hate to inconvenience them. Maybe you did make too much noise one time, now, you addressed it and stopped, time for your neighbours and building management to address their own issues with insane tenants and building guards. Once that crap starts (insane neighbours, guards with Rambo complexes), it never ends. Next thing you know, people are complaining about the colour of your shoes and the smell of your cooking.
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I'm living in NYC where everybody is in an apartment. And if I were supposed to give in every time someone decides to complain, I might just shoot myself right now and be done with it. Typical NY scenario: Someone with a chihuahua that barks all day when she is out of the house wants me to stop playing because "she is a lawyer and she needs to sleep" Well, I am a musician and I need to practice, and that is exactly as valid an argument.
You live in an apartment, there will be noise. There is always a way to work it out with each other, which is not the same as one individual deciding to make the rules for everybody. That goes for people who make noise and that goes for people who complain.
You live in an apartment, there will be noise. There is always a way to work it out with each other, which is not the same as one individual deciding to make the rules for everybody. That goes for people who make noise and that goes for people who complain.
