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Would you sign this contract ??

would you sign this contract

  • yes

    Votes: 11 5.6%

  • no

    Votes: 187 95.9%
  • Total voters
    195
#41
DrewD said:
It's very well done by a lawyer with good legal drafting skills. Covers all the bases. However, for a small time gig you're right - it's WAY over the top.

It's a "hold your nose" contract. No sign, no gig. So either hold your nose and sign or don't accept the gig. Trying to renegotiate it would be futile. There are too many hardnosed points in it.

Or you could really freak the winery out and insist on using an AF of M engagement contract :) Again, no gig.
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Yep over the top, previously we played for $400 no contract but they were gonna 1099 us so I upped the price to $450 and got this contract , its a freaking winery !! pay sucks around here , we are a 4 piece BTW
 
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#43
Besides the #8 and the band cant take any photos or video, the cancellation policy is a no from me too. They can cancel on you anytime they want but, if the band cant make it, in the covid era, you need to provide a replacement band. We just had to cancel last night because our singer woke up with a cold (tested negative for covid) and there was no way were were supplying a replacement in that timeframe.
 
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#44
BobKos said:
Reading this thread got me thinking - would it be advantageous for a band to pay the rights fees in order to be more attractive to better venues or able to charge more per gig?? Just a thought....
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I actually looked into this when wanting to try and get my old cover band into the venues that don’t pay the licensing. From what I could tell it isn’t possible as they just don’t sell licenses for individuals to perform licensed work wherever but rather site licenses that have fees based on venue capacity.
 
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#45
Yeah a little over the top but we had to sign something similar to play at a pretty large brewery. It was a great gig and we did it several times.

We did another at a very large outdoor venue. In this case we had to guarantee a $1000 in sales and were required to have an insurance policy to cover and damage our fans my have cause to the property. This was to have exclusive rights to the property by our fans only. It also turned our great!
 
#46
juancaminos said:
Yeah a little over the top but we had to sign something similar to play at a pretty large brewery. It was a great gig and we did it several times.

We did another at a very large outdoor venue. In this case we had to guarantee a $1000 in sales and were required to have an insurance policy to cover and damage our fans my have cause to the property. This was to have exclusive rights to the property by our fans only. It also turned our great!
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That was an event that you were sponsoring? If so, that's a different situation.
 
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#54
DanGroove said:
I actually looked into this when wanting to try and get my old cover band into the venues that don’t pay the licensing. From what I could tell it isn’t possible as they just don’t sell licenses for individuals to perform licensed work wherever but rather site licenses that have fees based on venue capacity.
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It's also one of the annoying things about YouTube type content. Google or similar should pay a licensing fee. I can't figure out anyway I would ever be able to do so.
 
#55
akukulich said:
That may be true, but I don't see how that would be practical from the venue's perspective. It's sort of like asking your customers to buy a liquor license before they order a drink. The obligation is on the wrong party. But who knows? Weirder things have been tried, I'm sure.

I have seen venues that don't pay for an ASCAP/BMI license, and they only allowed original bands to play there. Covers were strictly forbidden and the ASCAP/BMI guys paid regular visits.
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This is a good guess. Most wineries don't have ASCAP/BMI licenses because they only have live bands a few times per year and don't play music in their tasting rooms. It can be a significant expense. This is why it's in the contract. Note I'm not siding with the winery here, I am just trying to explain why it's there.
 
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#58
mike buzzetti said:
So in my area this contract has circulated in the wineries , it is a junk contract used for bands , WAYYYY over blown for doing a gig ( might be from realestate ?? )
Would you sign it ??? and *** are they thinking ??
Buzz
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not only should you turn it down, you should warn other musicians/bands to read the fine print and share the flaws others are pointing out here.
 
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