Before the internet the alternative was Jazz records, a phonograph, and the will.
Back in the text-only internet, Marc Sabatella's Jazz Improvisation Primer Gave me a solid foundation
That sounds more like Rick Beato's older content.
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Would you spend $2000 to learn to play jazz online?
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Before the internet the alternative was Jazz records, a phonograph, and the will.
Back in the text-only internet, Marc Sabatella's Jazz Improvisation Primer Gave me a solid foundation
Ignoring the cost, you get out of something what you put into it. Free can be great, $10k can be great. IF you put in the effort.
There was a time when that would have seemed a great bargain for knowledge, skills and experience. If perhaps you are a young bass player seeking to expand your musical horizons but are not fortunate enough to be able to travel to Berkley, MI or other university with a jazz bass criteria this might offer a great alternative. At my timeline in the late 70's there were a only a few options North Texas, Miami or Berkley all well out of my financial reach ~ this program might have been a Godsend. Instead I have bumbled and bungled my way into skills and knowledge taking 30+ years and spent a heck of a lot more than 2K along the way.
IS Scott a jazz bass player? The best way to learn jazz is to be brave enough and go to jazz jams after some theory leaning. There is no other way.
I do not mean jazzy. Off the realbook and beyond the 1940's tunes.
I do not mean jazzy. Off the realbook and beyond the 1940's tunes.
$2,000 of rambling nonsense for SBL. I wouldn't spend $20 to have to listen to him. As others have said, find a good local teacher and spend that $$ on them. Also learn every note off your favorite cd's, this can not be said enough.
Joe Hubbard has an excellent online, very structured, step by step and professionally put together bass course. He's a pro teacher and player. If you're looking into online courses I'd recommend him any day over SBL...never been impressed with that guy.
The constant click bait marketing rambling and leading completely devalues them. If they believe in their content and they want to be seen as credible they need to stop that. It probably works but I hate it.
Most paywalls have LESS ads when you are on the inside….
Most paywalls have LESS ads when you are on the inside….
OP here. This post wasn't intended to disparage Scott Devine or SBL. He's a fantastic player and also a very good teacher. I've learned a lot from Scott, especially as it pertains to theory and proper playing form/fundamentals.
This particular promotion is not like anything they've done. Maybe it will be effective for someone. It's just hard to see past all the salesman nonsense.
Yeah... his videos in the membership don't have all the shenanigans of his YouTube clickbait.
This particular promotion is not like anything they've done. Maybe it will be effective for someone. It's just hard to see past all the salesman nonsense.
This is not a shot at you or your teacher, lowdownbp5, but I have always vehemently disliked this notion. I must respectfully offer the following rebuttal:
Play what you mean to play, and mean what you play.
If you play something you didn't mean, play something afterwards that clarifies what you mean.
If your bandmate plays something you think they didn't mean, play something that justifies what they played.
There are no "wrong" notes, but there are an infinite number of "unintended" notes. In a live setting, you have to make lemonade out of those lemons.
Calling a repeated wrong note "jazz" is as disrespectful to the genre as claiming that "learning to read will be bad for your improvisation" is for music education in general.
Thanks for the soapbox, lowdown.
I like those guys, but it definitely raises my eyebrow when I see Ian's $500/$600-per-device pedalboard.
I'm a lifetime member of SBL as well, but I'm not paying extra for lessons that are not 1-1, in person instruction. If it was maybe $100 with the option of paying by the hour for additional 1:1 video instruction, I would jump on some of these specialized courses. But for the amounts of money they're asking for, it would be better spent on 1:1 lessons with your local college instructor IMO.
It's because there's a $134k debt that needs to be paid off somewhere.
It was not meant to be disrespectful. He was jazz fan and it was said as a jokeThis is not a shot at you or your teacher, lowdownbp5, but I have always vehemently disliked this notion. I must respectfully offer the following rebuttal:
Play what you mean to play, and mean what you play.
If you play something you didn't mean, play something afterwards that clarifies what you mean.
If your bandmate plays something you think they didn't mean, play something that justifies what they played.
There are no "wrong" notes, but there are an infinite number of "unintended" notes. In a live setting, you have to make lemonade out of those lemons.
Calling a repeated wrong note "jazz" is as disrespectful to the genre as claiming that "learning to read will be bad for your improvisation" is for music education in general.
Thanks for the soapbox, lowdown.
The ENTIRE WORLD. With this thing called the 'internet' you can study with anyone, anywhere in the world using this thing called 'Skype'. In some ways it's BETTER than an in person lesson because you can record the lesson and go back over it and transcribe things that might have flown by in real time.
$2000 seems too much for not even handing a credential. Also, I don't see anything new in what is offered (very similar to ArtistWorks for 20x the price), so no X factor either (or "Ex-Factor" in our case).
Maybe they could've teamed up with a recognized school.
Very interesting answers and suggestions by the way. Maybe they should've done a focus group first.
Maybe they could've teamed up with a recognized school.
Very interesting answers and suggestions by the way. Maybe they should've done a focus group first.
Don't worry, that counter is NEVER going to hit 67, even if ten thousand people sign up. It's magic of the internet.But wait, the class size is limited (67 spots) and they will never offer this again… it is a one time opportunity and it will expire… I saw the counter, they're serious… once that counter times out, there are no more chances to get it… gone, never again. Don't miss out… limited time offer… this just dropped into my inbox, again.
