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Wrapping my head around the C4 Synth Pedal

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MovinTarget said:
Yeah, I'm looking at the FI v3 now and saw Quatschmacher named dropped on some of the forum posts.

So it sounds like the FI might be a bit more affordable at the entry level to get full access to it's potential since you don't need to buy a midi controller on top of the pedal, unless a $60 mini midi controller is floating around...

Again, this would be mostly to keep me busy while traveling so the less bloat, the better.
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I don’t wish to derail the thread here. If you want to chat FI, then head over to the dedicated thread. I’ve tagged you in it.

To connect the MC6 to the C4, the SA Hub is a fairly logical option and quite small.
 
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Goatrope said:
The 4 knobs can be assigned whatever function you like, if you want to tweak a particular preset in real-time. I have one knob set the same on all my patches, as an output level control.
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ok thanks.
How do you enter the patch names on the DMC? Does it copy them automaticaly from the C4?

What I find strange is that they choose to have output level on an alt function.
That is the one knob that you have to adjust the most on stage. Would make much more sense to have output level as a primary knob (not alt). You can assign it to a control knob but then you have to give up one knob because you can't change the alt volume level knob to something else (at least not on the Spectrum).
 
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Les Fret said:
ok thanks.
How do you enter the patch names on the DMC? Does it copy them automaticaly from the C4?

What I find strange is that they choose to have output level on an alt function.
That is the one knob that you have to adjust the most on stage. Would make much more sense to have output level as a primary knob (not alt). You can assign it to a control knob but then you have to give up one knob because you can't change the alt volume level knob to something else (at least not on the Spectrum).
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Re: the DMC Micro Pro, the most recent update allows you to use the 1/8" to 1/4" TRS cable to control it (the Neuro cable that comes with the pedal). There's more details on their site, but that saves you buying an extra usb cable, and you can keep both the DMC and C4 plugged in to your computer for editing while still running your setup as normal.
 
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Les Fret said:
ok thanks.
How do you enter the patch names on the DMC? Does it copy them automaticaly from the C4?

What I find strange is that they choose to have output level on an alt function.
That is the one knob that you have to adjust the most on stage. Would make much more sense to have output level as a primary knob (not alt). You can assign it to a control knob but then you have to give up one knob because you can't change the alt volume level knob to something else (at least not on the Spectrum).
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No, it’s a bit of a tedious process using the two DMC buttons, but it goes quickly once you get going. There’s supposed to be a process to upload from a text file, or something similar via computer, but I never attempted it.

I agree regarding the lack of a dedicated output knob. I wonder if the designers just didn’t plan on any live tweaking. But like I wrote, I just assigned a knob to that. I don’t mind giving up a knob. I do little live tweaking, myself.
 
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How does the MarkBass Super Synth compare with either of these? I owned a Deep Impact, and I can imagine how awesome the Future Impact must be. I own a SuperSynth but have never used a C4. Like the C4, the SuperSynth is programmable on your PC using the software, and patches loaded into the pedal. There's no MIDI, but the pedal can hold a fair number of presets and it's not hard to switch between them. I see they're selling for pretty cheap on eBay - maybe yesterday's technology that just isn't that great by comparison? I see Deep Impacts on eBay still asking for sky-high prices, but none appear to be selling.
 
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rodak said:
How does the MarkBass Super Synth compare with either of these? I owned a Deep Impact, and I can imagine how awesome the Future Impact must be. I own a SuperSynth but have never used a C4. Like the C4, the SuperSynth is programmable on your PC using the software, and patches loaded into the pedal. There's no MIDI, but the pedal can hold a fair number of presets and it's not hard to switch between them. I see they're selling for pretty cheap on eBay - maybe yesterday's technology that just isn't that great by comparison? I see Deep Impacts on eBay still asking for sky-high prices, but none appear to be selling.
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Markbass super synth is anything but - it doesn’t even have a square wave!
 
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Goatrope said:
No, it’s a bit of a tedious process using the two DMC buttons, but it goes quickly once you get going. There’s supposed to be a process to upload from a text file, or something similar via computer, but I never attempted it.

I agree regarding the lack of a dedicated output knob. I wonder if the designers just didn’t plan on any live tweaking. But like I wrote, I just assigned a knob to that. I don’t mind giving up a knob. I do little live tweaking, myself.
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I usually edit via the browser. It makes things go way faster! You can also create backups, which is rather handy.
I haven’t looked into editing via text file, but that sounds super interesting.
Here’s the link for the browser based editor: DMC.micro editor
 
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I was positively surprized by BOSS SY-1. It is no C4/FI, but is smaller, faster, less sensitive to technique problems, and requires NO external gear. General synth and octave sounds in SY-1 are good, but the organ simulations, bells, sequencers and pitch shifting are what sold it to me. And it is very easy to use. Try it!
 
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AlexanderB said:
I was positively surprized by BOSS SY-1. It is no C4/FI, but is smaller, faster, less sensitive to technique problems, and requires NO external gear. General synth and octave sounds in SY-1 are good, but the organ simulations, bells, sequencers and pitch shifting are what sold it to me. And it is very easy to use. Try it!
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And now they have a version with presets.
 
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jam.majors said:
I usually edit via the browser. It makes things go way faster! You can also create backups, which is rather handy.
I haven’t looked into editing via text file, but that sounds super interesting.
Here’s the link for the browser based editor: DMC.micro editor
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Awesome. Thank you.

I’d been at that page before. Unfortunately I was hangry, and it was redirecting me elsewhere, so I bailed. I’ll go back and play with it now that you reminded me. :)
 
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Goatrope said:
No, it’s a bit of a tedious process using the two DMC buttons, but it goes quickly once you get going. There’s supposed to be a process to upload from a text file, or something similar via computer, but I never attempted it.
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Anyone here using the Neuro phone app for switching presets at gigs? Is it practical?

I only use the Neuro desktop app. Never used the phone app.
 
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Les Fret said:
Anyone here using the Neuro phone app for switching presets at gigs? Is it practical?

I only use the Neuro desktop app. Never used the phone app.
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With some practice I could see it working out. But you’d need to make sure you had them loaded up to the cloud and that your phone would have a stable network connection
 
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