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Double Bass YAMAHA EUB Megathread

#61
Hi
I see you are discussing my Silent bass . When I said the Yamaha sounds 90 % like the realbass I mean in a live situation where anyway most of the sound comes from the Wilson pick-up. In the studio with accoustic microphones the difference is of cause much more audible . " The Day " is recorded with my real bass and a blend of pickup and microphones .The Silent bass could never sound like this.
But live it's great .
Arild Andersen
 
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#63
I just picked up a SLB200 today. I haven't tried any other kind of EUB, but the Yamaha seems really nice. I tried it through my trusty Acoustic 136 (from the dawn of time) and an SWR 2X10. Warm and natural...

The onboard eq worked well, although cranking the treble gives a grating nasty sound.

I'll use it for a gig Saturday and see how it works for that.
 
#66
I have a no-name mittenwald German carved bass from the 1920's. To get decent acoustic pizz tone and volume, the action is pretty high. This isn't so much of an issue with EUB, so the Yamaha has lower action. Lately, I have been using a small diaphram AKG microphone rigged between the bridge feet with rubber bands for my UB. It has excellent sound, but it also picks up my breathing and anything I say.

I know this applies to any EUB, but you can use a lighter touch. That means I can play faster and more comfortably.
 
#71
Last year I was interested in trying this on my SLB 200. I have used an EggPin on my DB since '93 (and will eventually graduate to the Laborie...) and wanted to get that same familiar angle on my EUB.

What I ended up doingwas to bend the stock endpin that came with the bass. First I placed a small hose clamp on the endpin to keep the height consistent. Then I carefully bent the pin by placing it in a table vice until I achieved the angle I was looking for. It worked very well. Because the Yamaha endpin is a hollow pipe, I don't notice much springy-ness or bouncing like bent thin solid db endpins.

This was a very effective, and very cost-efficient modification.

Good luck!
 
#72
hi maxito,

thanks for the advice. where exactly did you bent the pin? close to the floor or close to the bass? i wonder if it has any effect on the sound or stability on which side of the pin the bent is made. do you know what i mean? kind of hard to describe. i've seen this one for double bass Invalid Link Removed
and this one [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

the position of the bent is different. can you see it?
 
#73
Hi Steffen,

My camera is down, or I'd take a picture. I'll try and describe it -

The majority of the bend is toward the bottom, but there is an arc in the rest of the endpin so that there is no abrupt angle. I didn't want to crimp the pipe and create a stress point.

As for stability, I think it's increased. Feels like the bass is more anchored to the floor.

I did not notice any change in sound - probably because the pin is still attached at the same location.

Also, forgot to mention that the original thumb screw stripped in less than 6 months, so I replaced it with a metric allen bolt (don't remember the size) and tighten it with a small wrench that I keep on the bass.

I'll post some pics when the camera is fixed.

maxito
 
#75
I am making progress with the album, but nothing with the Yammy EUB yet. I've been working on arangements and getting a scratch track for the vocalists to sing to with either piano or guitar. I've been kinda freakin out, because I've had to actually score some charts for a few songs. My notation skills are pretty much non existent, so its a long and tedious process for me.

I hope to have the bass recorded within the next couple of weeks. i'll keep you posted when I have something. As a teaser, I'll think I'm going to attempt to do some tracks arco as well as pizz.

Maxito, where any of the sound clips on your site recorded with your SLB?
 
#76
haku said:
Maxito, where any of the sound clips on your site recorded with your SLB?
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Sorry I didn't post these earlier. Yes, there are sound clips online.

I used it on Ginny Carr's new CD, and she has most of the cuts available on her website, Invalid Link Removed. I used the SLB200 and Tobias Classic 5 string throughout - except one track with arco bass, it's a CzechEase...

Visit AfroBop Alliance's website, Link Removed - and the music that launches automatically was played on the SLB200 (except the electric bass stuff - should be obvious, but if not, if it's below low "E" it's not my EUB...)

Other than what I just mentioned, the sound files on my website, www.maxbass.com were played on my 7/8 Solano Panormo.

Hope this helps! Enjoy!

Peace,

mAx
 
#77
Cool Maxito. Well there ya go. So that gets me off the hook then right? No need for me to upload clips hehe. :hiding:

Man I wish I had my EUB when I was gigging with the salsa band I used to play with. Listening to your stuff makes me reminisce.

Just outta curiousity, what was the signal chain for your recordings? From reading some of your other posts, I assume you're using Helicore Hybrid mediums? I'm digging the sound from the afrobop site. From listening to the afrobop clips, I think that should shut up all of the SLB haters ;) Proof's in the pudding folks, but then again as I said in my previous post about putting (pun intended) the SLB in capable hands...

Speaking of strings, I think the stock strings are Helicore Pizzicatos? I'm too lazy to change them, but I did pick up a set of the Hybrids based on your posts. I haven't had much time on my SLB since starting this recording gig.
 
#78
Mahalo, Haku for your kokua, brah.

Glad you enjoyed 'em. You are correct - Helicore Hybrids. When I first started using them was on another bass, and I was doing a good bit of orchestral work as well as jazz gigs, so I needed a string that articulated quickly with the bow, and still growled when I dug in. These days my bow rarely sees the light of day, so I really don't need a "multi-purpose" string as much, but I am very used to them so I have stuck with them.....for now......

The signal chain, Great question! Try wait, try wait - Grab pencil, it's pretty complicated..... ready...'kay den,

bass - monster cable - direct into the board. :smug:

The afrobop stuff was recorded @ Bias Studios just outside of DC, and the engineer has gold records & grammys all over the place, so I let him do his thing. I really just went in and played direct, and am not sure what outboard stuff he may have used, but what is on the recording is how the bass sounds live through my SWR rig.
 
#79
Maxito, I see you're fluent in Hawaiian pigeon English. Don't even get me started hehe. Where'd do you learn to speak?

Thanks for the info on the signal chain. I planned on going direct the board as well. I forgot to ask about the onboard pre/eq settings on your SLB - flat, more or less treble/bass? As for me I usually have the bass dialed in at 12 and the treble between 3-5 for more growl when playing pizz and 12-2 for bowing.

The fluctuating humidity wreaks havoc on my sound. It gets really frustrating when the sound is inconsistent from day to day. Price of living in 'paradise' I guess.
 
#80
Thanks for sharing, Maxito. Keep posting samples, everyone. I'll put some up myself once I manage to get my hands on one of these things (I live overseas, so it's a bit more complex than just grabbing the credit card).

For those who are scoping out the sound of this basss, there's a brief bass solo at the end of "Tommorow" (Invalid Link Removed) that lets us hear the sound of the bass right up front. Very nice.
 

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