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Zoom B3 As Preamp Part 2

Zoom may be staggering the release news for new products.

I bet a bass version of the new G5n will also be announced in the next day or so... or maybe not... :crying:

Looking through the details of that G5n, I wouldn't hesitate to get a bass version on spec although I notice it's missing the B3's balanced line out. It would probably replace my entire pedal board quite happily, as I don't go direct very often, and my amp has an XLR out anyway.
 
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It is stated that it is possible to download amps and efx to the G5n, if that is really the case it might just work. However it appears that there are only 4 parameters for each effect, no paging options like the B3 or MS60b. While amps offer more tweaking it is not covered in the manual how to change or adjust parameters
 
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This will look even better when it's the B5n!

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Hi - I've just finished reading through the two threads. It's like watching Breaking Bad, just another few pages as the hours tick by. As a bassist, it is of course Utopia!

I'm just getting back into live music after a 15 yr absence. Blew the dust off my Trace Elliot rig and an old fretless jazz. The TE blew up after 2 rehearsals.

I've bought myself an EBS 1 x 15 combo and a B3. Originally I picked up the B3 for a few effects to cover the range of songs we're doing but after fortuitously finding this thread I'm not thinking quite differently.

Since I've only just bought the EBS I want to keep it, so I was thinking of running it as flat as possible and connecting up the B3 pre-amps and add some noise reduction.

There seems to be different ways to do this and the EBS has a lot of functionality. Can anyone offer some pointers?

And thank you for such a good read ...
 
Hi - I've just finished reading through the two threads. It's like watching Breaking Bad, just another few pages as the hours tick by. As a bassist, it is of course Utopia!

I'm just getting back into live music after a 15 yr absence. Blew the dust off my Trace Elliot rig and an old fretless jazz. The TE blew up after 2 rehearsals.

I've bought myself an EBS 1 x 15 combo and a B3. Originally I picked up the B3 for a few effects to cover the range of songs we're doing but after fortuitously finding this thread I'm not thinking quite differently.

Since I've only just bought the EBS I want to keep it, so I was thinking of running it as flat as possible and connecting up the B3 pre-amps and add some noise reduction.

There seems to be different ways to do this and the EBS has a lot of functionality. Can anyone offer some pointers?

And thank you for such a good read ...
Do you like the way the EBS sounds on its own?
J!
PS. Welcome back.
 
I do, but I'm relearning what I like and don't like. I've had a few rehearsals and just played into the EBS and got a decent sound. Last practice I tried using the B3's SVT and it showed lots of promise. It did get me thinking about looking at the amp sims more closely. Got home and found this thread.

So now I'm just considering how to approach everything. Too many options probably.
 
So this B3 is pretty interesting. Has anyone tried going straight into a powered speaker? I have a couple of RCF ART315MKII's that I use for gigs where my 410 is too big. I use aSansamp BDDI and it rocks. I wonder if the Zoom would work in the same way? It'd be niceto have those options etc
 
So this B3 is pretty interesting. Has anyone tried going straight into a powered speaker? I have a couple of RCF ART315MKII's that I use for gigs where my 410 is too big. I use aSansamp BDDI and it rocks. I wonder if the Zoom would work in the same way? It'd be niceto have those options etc

Lots of posts on this very subject exist in this and the previous thread, have a look.

Results generally meet/exceed expectations, but YMMV.

Cheers!
 
So this B3 is pretty interesting. Has anyone tried going straight into a powered speaker? I have a couple of RCF ART315MKII's that I use for gigs where my 410 is too big. I use aSansamp BDDI and it rocks. I wonder if the Zoom would work in the same way? It'd be niceto have those options etc

At home I use the B3 directly into powered monitors. Great sound and quite loud enough for practice. I expect quality large powered speakers would do just as well.

I have myself considered getting hi-fi powered speakers for gigging, as they might reproduce the B3's great sounds more faithfully, without the coloration one gets from bass amps and combos.
 
So this B3 is pretty interesting. Has anyone tried going straight into a powered speaker? I have a couple of RCF ART315MKII's that I use for gigs where my 410 is too big. I use aSansamp BDDI and it rocks. I wonder if the Zoom would work in the same way? It'd be niceto have those options etc

I've been using modelers for bass with passive and active PA (full range) cabinets for quite a few years. I personally favor coaxial designs, but that's just me. The biggest challenge is, IMO, how well they handle low end when you start pushing the speakers. To that end, I find that I like passive cabinets with a power amp or power section of a bass amp head better than active powered PA cabinets which generally either start to fart (and need aggressive low frequency filtering), or kick in some automated power amp limiting which kills any desirable "punch" in the low end dynamics.

[Amending this to say that 15" powered PA speaker cabinets actually can do well with low frequencies, but tend to be bigger in size, and for me personally, not as desirable.]

Although some of the passive PA cabs I use don't necessarily get real low - which can be a good thing - they seem to hold together better when I do need the extra gas when playing live with in a rock band format, especially with drums.
 
I've been using modelers for bass with passive and active PA (full range) cabinets for quite a few years. I personally favor coaxial designs, but that's just me. The biggest challenge is, IMO, how well they handle low end when you start pushing the speakers. To that end, I find that I like passive cabinets with a power amp or power section of a bass amp head better than active powered PA cabinets which generally either start to fart (and need aggressive low frequency filtering), or kick in some automated power amp limiting which kills any desirable "punch" in the low end dynamics.

[Amending this to say that 15" powered PA speaker cabinets actually can do well with low frequencies, but tend to be bigger in size, and for me personally, not as desirable.]

Although some of the passive PA cabs I use don't necessarily get real low - which can be a good thing - they seem to hold together better when I do need the extra gas when playing live with in a rock band format, especially with drums.

^This. I can 100% subscribe to this. I own two EV ZLX15P which I'm running the B3 into, and while I'm still overall really pleased with the sound, you might run into headroom problems at some point. Plus, fiddling with the controls on the back is sort of a pain.

I try to run my signal chain at equity gain as strict as possible, EQ down most below 80Hz and I have a Presonus Blue Tube preamp which features a VU-meter, so I can pretty much control everything that's going into the speakers. Upside, B3 and preamp nicely permit me to go two channel if needed.
 
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