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[Zoot H Rollo]

From Zoom, regarding the 60B+

Hello,

Thank you for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, this item is still on backorder without an up-to-date restocking estimate. Due to ongoing supply chain shortages, production timeframes have varied more than is typical. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and appreciate your understanding.

Best regards,

 

[Freddie B]

There are 3 buttons and 3 stomp switches on B3n. I don't understand what you mean by "3 to 5 stomp switches".

Hello, well the b3n and the b2 four I guess 3 stomp switches and the b6 has 4 stomp switches and the hotone has 5. I guess I'm asking/wondering what is the purpose of 4 and 5 stomp switches
I am new to the multi effects pedal world

 

[GASsyFunker]

Hello, well the b3n and the b2 four I guess 3 stomp switches and the b6 has 4 stomp switches and the hotone has 5. I guess I'm asking/wondering what is the purpose of 4 and 5 stomp switches
I am new to the multi effects pedal world

Well, more switches means it is easier to change more things on the fly, without turning knobs, touching a screen, or pushing smaller buttons. I'm fine with only 3 on the B2 Four though.

 

[Freddie B]

I have been researching all kinds of multi effects pedals and I am getting the b2 four tomorrow. Just the shear magnitude of multi's which all the stomp switches ‍. I was just needing help with my confused mind .

 

[stubbsonic]

I have been researching all kinds of multi effects pedals and I am getting the b2 four tomorrow. Just the shear magnitude of multi's which all the stomp switches ‍. I was just needing help with my confused mind .

Congrats on the new B2 Four! It's fun!

The 3 footswitches (#1,2,3) will have two main functions. In Memory Mode, you can use it to select from three consecutive full patches, (for example: 211, 212, 213). You can use the arrow buttons to scroll you to a different range. In Effect Mode (which is essentially like edit mode) the display will show three of the modules in your chain. And those footswitches will enable/bypass any of the three modules you have in the display. If you want to "see" a different range of 3 modules, use the arrow keys like you did in Memory Mode, to shift the view left/right in the chain.

Sometimes the buttons do slightly different things for different modules, but mostly it's on/bypass.

If you want to nerd out on some details, I wrote a review which you can read here:

Zoom B2 Four: An In-Depth Review (2/14/24) |

 

[mattattack187]

Any B2Four firmware upgrades or new models in the works?

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

From my Sweetwater rep regarding the new Zoom + pedals.

"Delays are pretty typical with new products.

There is a joke around here that NAMM actually stands for Not Available Maybe March.

I’ll let you know when we get them. Our ETA is 2 weeks out but subject to change."

 

[SteveCS]

...
well the b3n ... 3 stomp switches
...

yes and no. The B3n also has permanently-assigned navigation footswitches below the stomp buttons. With the B6 you have to step on a mode switch to change the mode of the stomp switches to navigate, then switch mode again to put them back to selectors. The B3n probably has the most gig-worthy UI and workflow, IMHO.

 

[Parzival]

From my Sweetwater rep regarding the new Zoom + pedals.

"Delays are pretty typical with new products.

There is a joke around here that NAMM actually stands for Not Available Maybe March.

I’ll let you know when we get them. Our ETA is 2 weeks out but subject to change."

Can't stand companies like this. There are companies doing it the right way. Just look at Origin Effects, as soon as the new Cali76 announcement hit, those pedals were available everywhere. I would much rather deal with a company like this.

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

Can't stand companies like this. There are companies doing it the right way. Just look at Origin Effects, as soon as the new Cali76 announcement hit, those pedals were available everywhere. I would much rather deal with a company like this.

i completely agree.

i typically don't preorder anything.

ship the product you announce!

i am making an exception here, since i have the B3 with practically the same signal chain as the 60B+.

 

[Freddie B]

yes and no. The B3n also has permanently-assigned navigation footswitches below the stomp buttons. With the B6 you have to step on a mode switch to change the mode of the stomp switches to navigate, then switch mode again to put them back to selectors. The B3n probably has the most gig-worthy UI and workflow, IMHO.

Thank you very much for the response. I think I get it and thanks for being patient

 

[stubbsonic]

Any B2Four firmware upgrades or new models in the works?

My two big wishes for the B2 Four would be:

1. Fix that awful Tremolo.
2. Add a 3 MODERN (!) solid-state bass amp models:
Some Eden with a 2X10" cab,
Hartke kickback with a 15" cab
some GK amp, not sure what cab

I kind of doubt Zoom will give the B2 Four much love in the update department. I truly hope I'm wrong.

 

[Zoot H Rollo]

My two big wishes for the B2 Four would be:

1. Fix that awful Tremolo.
2. Add a 3 MODERN (!) solid-state bass amp models:
Some Eden with a 2X10" cab,
Hartke kickback with a 15" cab
some GK amp, not sure what cab

I kind of doubt Zoom will give the B2 Four much love in the update department. I truly hope I'm wrong.

i too doubt the B2-Four will get those updates

that's one of the reasons i switched from the B2-Four to the B3/MS-60B(+)

The B3/60B has all(ish) three of those amps.

Eden WT-800
Hartke HA3500
Gallien-Krueger 800RB

and a good selection of cabs.

for a 2x10 i use the Mooer Radar with a few 210 IRs.

 

[Freddie B]

Congrats on the new B2 Four! It's fun!

The 3 footswitches (#1,2,3) will have two main functions. In Memory Mode, you can use it to select from three consecutive full patches, (for example: 211, 212, 213). You can use the arrow buttons to scroll you to a different range. In Effect Mode (which is essentially like edit mode) the display will show three of the modules in your chain. And those footswitches will enable/bypass any of the three modules you have in the display. If you want to "see" a different range of 3 modules, use the arrow keys like you did in Memory Mode, to shift the view left/right in the chain.

Sometimes the buttons do slightly different things for different modules, but mostly it's on/bypass.

If you want to nerd out on some details, I wrote a review which you can read here:

Zoom B2 Four: An In-Depth Review (2/14/24) |

Wow thank you I will definitely read. It came in today 5/9/24

Congrats on the new B2 Four! It's fun!

The 3 footswitches (#1,2,3) will have two main functions. In Memory Mode, you can use it to select from three consecutive full patches, (for example: 211, 212, 213). You can use the arrow buttons to scroll you to a different range. In Effect Mode (which is essentially like edit mode) the display will show three of the modules in your chain. And those footswitches will enable/bypass any of the three modules you have in the display. If you want to "see" a different range of 3 modules, use the arrow keys like you did in Memory Mode, to shift the view left/right in the chain.

Sometimes the buttons do slightly different things for different modules, but mostly it's on/bypass.

If you want to nerd out on some details, I wrote a review which you can read here:

Zoom B2 Four: An In-Depth Review (2/14/24) |

Congrats on the new B2 Four! It's fun!

The 3 footswitches (#1,2,3) will have two main functions. In Memory Mode, you can use it to select from three consecutive full patches, (for example: 211, 212, 213). You can use the arrow buttons to scroll you to a different range. In Effect Mode (which is essentially like edit mode) the display will show three of the modules in your chain. And those footswitches will enable/bypass any of the three modules you have in the display. If you want to "see" a different range of 3 modules, use the arrow keys like you did in Memory Mode, to shift the view left/right in the chain.

Sometimes the buttons do slightly different things for different modules, but mostly it's on/bypass.

If you want to nerd out on some details, I wrote a review which you can read here:

Zoom B2 Four: An In-Depth Review (2/14/24) |

OMG your review of the b2 four is AWESOME. I will revert back to it at for reference. There is not enough reviews help pages, tips and tricks out there to help newbies with this product. If there is I can't understand their broken english (please don't take it the wrong way please). It is frustrating trying to find out anything much. I thought the unit was bluetooth capable but I guess not, you have to use an adapter to use the app hmmm.

 

[GASsyFunker]

My two big wishes for the B2 Four would be:

1. Fix that awful Tremolo.

I actually think it's pretty good! Now, the octave/pitch shift effects... THOSE are terrible

 

[stubbsonic]

I actually think (the tremolo) it's pretty good! Now, the octave/pitch shift effects... THOSE are terrible

The tremolo with the triangle wave is fine. It's just that the square and tube waveforms are too clicky to be useable. None of them "read" like classic tremolo, which is disappointing because Zoom's other products have had better tremolo sims.

I'll summarize my comments about B2 Four's pitch:
BASS ANALOG OCTAVER is responsive if you aren't playing too low.
BASS POLYPHONIC PITCH SHIFTER sounds ok, but has a little latency.
BASS MONO PITCH SHIFTER more responsive but muddier.
BASS MONO PITCH SHIFTER, ok for octave up, a little glitchy if you don't play cleanly.
PITCH SHIFT ... laughably bad.
SUPER LOW PREAMP adds an octave down sine wave for added heft.

Seems like across the board, pitch-shifting tech even at its best isn't that great. I think Zoom is unlikely to be able to improve on them in this product.

 

[bassbrad]

The Zoom MS70CDR+ has arrived and a quick run though has me very pleased. Quiet with impressive sound quality even with multiple effects in a patch. The Bass Analog Octaver sounds pretty substantial and tracked all the way to my open E and sounded massive through my studio speakers. Bit crusher and ring mods sound lovely, or as lovely as those ought to sound.
My only gripe is that the Zoom Guitar Lab does not recognize it and TonerLib has not added it yet so making edits will have to be done on the pedal, which is not my favorite, spoiled with computer screen editing on my 42" monitor.

 

[bassbrad]

Had a bit more time to audition each of the effects and here are my thought as pertains to bass use. This was using my Peavey Unity LTD on Pbass straight into a headphone amp and studio headphones. YMMV.

Compressors feel a more accurate or true to the analog counterparts in performance and sound. Most do not contribute any noise, exceptions are guitarish versions that need to have a ZNR engaged if you want that sound/feel.

Eqs are very usable and intuitive.

Filters are spot on and there is plenty of control and options to find a magic funky sound.

Octavers sound phat, full, quick tracking all the way down to low E, no artifacts or drops. Pitch shifter is better but it will not replace a transposer or Drop pedal IMHO. I do like the octave and fifth tracking as is seems a bit quicker than past Zooms.

Modulation, Delay and Reverbs sound fantastic and this is where this pedal really shows the most progress from the previous CDR [which is still quite good IMO]. While the exotic nature of many of the delays and reverbs may not suit many bass players use the basics are certainly there and aren't those other sounds a lot of fun to experiment with for those more into electronic or synth sounds, heck yes. It is also nice that there are many popular sounds included from much more expensive units like Strymon and Eventide.

Final thought are if you are needing a lot of effects and don't need distortions, preamps or amp or cab sims this s is a great addition to any effects collection.

I have sent emails to Zoom and ToneLib about adding the MS70CDR+ to the devices that their software supports. We shall see.

 

[stubbsonic]

Those comments in general apply to the B2 Four, as well, especially what you said about the compressors. I suspect Zoom used the same or similar DSP.

 

[GotGroove]

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Thanks! This sounds promising.

Those comments in general apply to the B2 Four, as well, especially what you said about the compressors. I suspect Zoom used the same or similar DSP.

That is the real question. Is this (and the 60B+) an actual upgrade to the B2/B6 or just a smaller form factor? It's not that I'll complain if it's just a smaller device with the same content. I like my B6 and I'll be getting the 60B+ regardless and possibly the 70CDR+ as well for other instruments. But it's been 4 years since the B6 was released. Some improvement over the old models would be nice.

@bassbrad Going by your signature you appear to have a B2 as well. Any chance you're going to A/B some of the effects?