Fake "1960" Jazz Bass on eBay

I reported it.

At the bottom of the eBay page, there is a report button---use it.

only way would be to contact ebay, or by asking seller a question that might trip 'em up.
I often report mofo's that list a "no-reserve" auction, and start the bidding off at $1000...that kind of b.s.

and yes, I was a hall monitor in school.

Well, I report stuff too---but was a School Safety Patrol Captain!

Jjango said:

15 bids so far.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1960-FE...yZ155124QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Phony as phony gets – terrible relicing, three-knob setup, modern reissue tuners, absurd amounts of corrosion, 70s pickup spacing, jumbo frets, in short, just a horrible fake.

The seller uses a lot of weasel words in the description, too – it seems to me that the seller knows it's a fake.

Is there any way to warn bidders?

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Totally FAKE!!! Right from the top down. I love the way the pic of the neck cavity is all blurred. Plus I've NEVER seen a truss rod nut like that on any Fender let alone a vintage one. Also never seen a rubber stamp on the neck like that on a 60 or earlier Fender. Not to say they didn't stamp them, I've just never seen one. Usually the names and dates are penciled in. Looks like the neck screws were re-dowled and re-drilled at one time. No pics of the PU's, pots, or wiring.

As for warning, posting here on TB helps. Maybe you could use the ask seller a question option to address the issues. Other than that I don't know. Needless to say somebody is going to get the shaft on that bass. I don't think it's worth even the $694.00 USD it's currently at.

what is this...? we get one sentence describing the new pickguard, but that it is otherwise in great shape. then:
"Again, I've done my best to describe the guitar fully and accurately."

really? this is the problem with people doing their best...

Yep... certainly reported. Me wonders if the folks bidding on it just want it 'cause it's a Fender, or if they think they're bidding on a real 60's Fender. In such case, one must *ponder* the gullibility of such a person when the listing is quite a few thousand dollars underpriced for the real thing. That's too bad, that folks will do anything these days to make a quick buck.... or a few thousand of them.

This is reason 2 I prefer Craigslist.
Yes, no one else will agree with me, but...

Anyhow, I wouldn't say the relicing is horrible, but kinda cheap on the finish.

Failure, though.

60bass said:

Totally FAKE!!! Right from the top down. I love the way the pic of the neck cavity is all blurred. Plus I've NEVER seen a truss rod nut like that on any Fender let alone a vintage one. Also never seen a rubber stamp on the neck like that on a 60 or earlier Fender. Not to say they didn't stamp them, I've just never seen one. Usually the names and dates are penciled in. Looks like the neck screws were re-dowled and re-drilled at one time.

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Also, a '60 Jazz would have string mute holes in the body, and 2 shallow drill holes under each tuner on the back of the headstock to accomodate the part of the tuner that sticks out a bit and left the dents in that neck.

reported.


Isn't there a way to ask him a question so it sits on the MAIN page and everyone can see him answer?

Someone should ask just straight up if he knows its faked, and where I can get those replacement tuners!

From a power seller too - what a shame...a lot of people actually trust people with high feedback ratings

The controls changed from stack knobs to three knobs in '62-'63 (some overlap). I'll bet it's a '60 neck on a much later body that's been "relic'd" to make it look authentic.

Which makes me wonder if it isn't a warped or otherwise damaged neck that was replaced....

A real '60 neck plate would have the S#. Oh yeah, and it would have the square ground wire from the bridge pickup to the bridgeplate.

danomite64 said:

Also, a '60 Jazz would have string mute holes in the body, and 2 shallow drill holes under each tuner on the back of the headstock to accomodate the part of the tuner that sticks out a bit and left the dents in that neck.

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Correct about the mute holes. I missed that one. I have seen original early Fender bass necks that didn't have the shallow drill holes for the tuners so maybe Fender added those on later necks. I'm not sure. I'm no vintage expert, just a player that's seen a fair share of old basses over the years.

After taking another look at the listing, I'm not sure if anything about the bass is original. The neck plate with S/N itself is probably faked too. That plate looks way newer than the rest of the hardware.

I just love the fact that the seller never really owns up as to whether or not the bass is actually a 60. He just refers to Fender's site and the S/N, also he just keeps saying that if anything's wrong with his description to let him know.

My gut tells me this guy knows full well the bass is bogus just by what he states here:

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4. Ask all questions BEFORE you bid. Again, if you bid and win, you have bought the bass guitar. I am not the first owner, I sell it in the same condition as when I bought it. Please make sure that you have verify all the pics that I included here... and make sure that you have VERIFY EVERY PART of this bass guitar BEFORE you make a bid! I SELL THIS AS IS, WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET. ALL SALES ARE FINAL. NO RETURNS. NO REFUND! I CANT GUARANTEE IF EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL! IF YOU DO NOT WANT (OR NOT SURE WITH) THE ITEM, DO NOT BID ON IT. Please ask all the question BEFORE you make a bid

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In other words "Caveat Emptor" It's up to you the buyer to make the decision as the seller is "playing dumb" when in reality the seller is smart and thinking you're the one thats dumb. When he dupes you, he can justify it to ebay by the above statement.

Stuff like this just shows how much nicer Craigslist can be. If this listing was posted there, it wouldn't last 1 hour before there were a bunch of warning posts about it being a fake.

Keep Low

lpdeluxe said:

The controls changed from stack knobs to three knobs in '62-'63 (some overlap). I'll bet it's a '60 neck on a much later body that's been "relic'd" to make it look authentic.

Which makes me wonder if it isn't a warped or otherwise damaged neck that was replaced....

A real '60 neck plate would have the S#.

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The truss rod nut on the neck doesn't look like a 60, IIRC.

Well on the body, it has a 4" 70's pickup spacing

LuckyCondlins said:

reported.


Isn't there a way to ask him a question so it sits on the MAIN page and everyone can see him answer?

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A seller can choose which questions to display, and which not to. As a seller, you usually display a question because it illuminates the item and offers more information in hopes of making a good sale. If you ask an embarrassing or inappropriate question, the seller does not have to show the world.

I reported it too. If you're going to do a fake, at least do it well. Sheesh.

And yes, I was definitely being sarcastic.

I didn't think the '60 Jazz logo had that many patent numbers under the logo.