1958 Survivor P

[clockworkcorpse]

We might all be dead soon, so I'm tempted to get it just to have something new to play.

Wait a minute, it only has half of it's original finish, i'm asking for a discount.

 

[MichelD]

Beautiful bass. Not only a '58, but an early '58. The vintage market prices are exclusive and prohibitive for most of us. Good thing, too. If they were giving away instruments like this there'd no doubt be more horribly mutilated specimens in the classified section. "Gee, Gord, cool the way you cut that '58 P into a teardrop just like Geddy's!!!" 'Nuff said.

I've seen 'em.

 

[Cutter8]

If anybody out there has the ability to fake relic a bass to that degree, well my hats off to them.

I think @Dark Horse has the skills to do it if he wanted to! I certainly wouldn’t bet against it. “Miss Molly” isn’t an extreme relic job, but she’ll give you an idea of what Andy’s work looks like:

 

[Playbyear]

I think @Dark Horse has the skills to do it if he wanted to! I certainly wouldn’t bet against it. “Miss Molly” isn’t an extreme relic job, but she’ll give you an idea of what Andy’s work looks like:

That is a convincing relic job!

I’d think the most difficult part to fake of this ‘58 is the neck. The patina is really something on the neck.

 

[Clark W]

This 1958 P does look original and correct, (but I’m not an expert)
It’s a cool, well worn survivor.
This prices are really climbing on these vintage guitars.
They’re asking $14,000 for this one!

I’m just posting for the eye candy.... it’s way out of my price range!

I saw that one on Ebay earlier today. Yeah 14 Gs is just a tad out of my reach right now, especially for a bass
1958 Fender Precision bass guitar - 2-tone sunburst, pre-CBS, all original | eBay

The one thing that I noticed that looked out of place on it was the knobs, they look brand new.
You should message the seller and tell him that's at least a grand off of his asking price

And who ships a 14 grand instrument for $75 bucks? Just at UPS' going rate for insurance, $2.70 for the first $300 in value, and 90 cents per $100 in value after that, adds up to $126 for insurance alone, actual shipping costs not included.

 

[JimmyM]

We might all be dead soon, so I'm tempted to get it just to have something new to play.

Wait a minute, it only has half of it's original finish, i'm asking for a discount.

If we're all going to be dead soon, what's the difference what you pay?

 

[clockworkcorpse]

If we're all going to be dead soon, what's the difference what you pay?

it's the principal, haha

 

[Cutter8]

That is a convincing relic job!

I’d think the most difficult part to fake of this ‘58 is the neck. The patina is really something on the neck.

I agree.

 

[Kubicki Fan]

I wouldn't pay anywhere near that price and that condition detracts from the price at least to me. I would say that's an 8K bass. I also couldn't believe when reliced cars because the fashion, hopefully that will just be a passing fad like reliced basses.

I don't think it is a fad, rather it is an aesthetic so I don't think it will just pass. It may rise and ebb but not dry up.
If 14K was not an issue for me and I wanted it, I'd just buy it.

 

[bluesblaster]

Love these oldies, those 58's ( or general era ) pickups just have that sound. Man, if that bass could talk, a story or two I bet it could tell

 

[dkelley]

for $14,000 it had better have anti gravity and play itself better than jamerson could

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

I don't think $14k cool.
Guitars are becoming like collector cars. An investment commodity for the rich.

Mecum, Christie's, etc.. auctions, live on the TV shows isn't good for normal income folks that want to buy a vintage guitar.

Vintage instruments, nowadays, seem to be definitely out of range for normal income people .. however, who cares? Vintage repro or custom shop instruments are very similar in performance (if not, se-facto, equivalent) and they are new .. so .. who cares?

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

for $14,000 it had better have anti gravity and play itself better than jamerson could

 

[james condino]

I remember back in the early '80s when you could visit 48th st NYC and play 300 old basses like this in an afternoon and then go home with your favorite for $500, often less. They were just old guitars and we thought it was going to last forever....

 

[Chickenwheels]

Who’s actually played or gigged one of these things?
I’ve tinkered with a few late 50’s Precision basses over the decades (and dozens of others), but the oldest Fender I’ve actually gigged with was a beaut ‘65. This was 20+ years back when they could still be bought for $2500-$3500AU.
The only Precision I’ve kept is my ‘75 because it’s a nice bass and safe to gig with (financially speaking). I’d actually hunt up a Mex Roadworn if I needed another Precision (probably).
Anyway, cool bass. My luthier has one.

 

[Diminishedfilth]

lol, I wonder if in the later part of this century, my 2012 US Precision will show up on the market with all the mystique of a vintage instrument.
“Was found in it’s case in the trunk of a 1969 Aztec Aqua Mach 1 Mustang found in a barn with initial copies of the Dead Sea Scrolls” and the like.

 

[boroman]

14 grand is too much for this one. But 10-11 with non-original knobs is considering a "good deal" now.

 

[Acoop]

In 2005 you'd be lucky to find one for 14k, but, that all changed and it may soon change once again. ... 10k would be a good price. ... Not that many around or players with that extra dough.

 

[Playbyear]

In 2005 you'd be lucky to find one for 14k, but, that all changed and it may soon change once again. ... 10k would be a good price. ... Not that many around or players with that extra dough.

I wasn't paying attention to the market in 2005.
Are you saying that market for vintage guitars had peaked in 2005, then crashed?

I saw that with collector cars after 2008, but that market has rebounded and seems to be stronger than ever.

 

[mikeswals]

In 2005 you'd be lucky to find one for 14k, but, that all changed and it may soon change once again. ... 10k would be a good price. ... Not that many around or players with that extra dough.

in 2005 the boomers with nostalgia were obviously all 15 years younger and had money to burn on hobbies, and that's who the rest of us were competing with. Those 55-60 year olds then are now 70-75, and are 70 year-olds pumping that kind of money into that market still?
So then begs the question; are current 40-50 year olds willing to spend that?