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1964 Ears Owners Group

Too "ostentatious" for my tastes.. but VERY nice none the less. Let us know what you think of them once you've had a chance to try them out.

Got gigs this weekend? or Church?
I'm playing Fri/Sat in Richardson at WW Fairfield's (Beltline/Plano Rd).
Forecast is calling for more snow Fri (30%). Ugh!!
That's a 35 mile drive for me...

Church this weekend. Not sure if I'll use the quads for my secular band. My attenuated custom-fitted musician plugs work pretty well for me in that environment. I keep the plugs in all night, even on set breaks. Clubs are loud places by nature. Who are you playing with at Fairfields?
 
Cool. We play in similar bands. Link Removed

LOL - Who knew!!

Looks like you guys are all over the state!!
We're not on the road and do the SOJO, WW, Cutters, etc. cover band circuit..
We're trying to break into the FW side (like Rodeo Exchange and Billy Bob's), but so far.... they have their list of fav rotations..

 
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LOL - Who knew!!

Looks like you guys are all over the state!!
We're not on the road and do the SOJO, WW, Cutters, etc. cover band circuit..
We're trying to break into the FW side (like Rodeo Exchange and Billy Bob's), but so far.... they have their list of fav rotations..



Luckily I don't get involved with booking. I just show up when scheduled. Yah, we travel. It's fun. Luckily I work for an airline. So when we head to South TX or OK I fly. Although I drive to East TX. I'm new (relatively) to the area so this is my first gigging band since my transplant. Id like to branch and sub on my open dates. But like you've mentioned, breaking into any new network is hard. Espc when the other things of life occupy time you could be spending doing music stuff
 
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some photos as promised!

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Any update? Pics?

OK....So Ive the quads for a couple of weeks now. When I had first got them, I wore them at work at work for a couple days playing back MP3's and what not. Additionally, I had church band rehearsal and service that week....which is the reason I had bought them in the first place. I prob have about 10 hours under my belt with them, here are my thoughts.

So my IMMEDIATE impression when I inserted for the 1st time was "I don't get it, whats all the buzz about? And where's all the bass people are talking about?" After a few weeks, I can honestly say, I do get it. They are extremely good sounding monitors. However, if you've never tried IEMS before like myself; read peoples reviews with a grain of salt. There are a TON of reviews claiming these are a bass heavy IEM. To be honest, I just don't see it. IMO, I think the bass is well represented as to what you might here in your FOH mix. The bass is not bloated, hyped, or extended. Again, I think the bass is well represented, present, but balanced....well executed comes to my mind. I was expecting my head and mind to blown away with massive amounts of ooey gooey bass. Not so. In fact, when pushed to hard with a bad source (crappy MP3 or youtube video) you can get the quads to stress.

Speaking of source material, if you're putting crap in; you're gonna get crap out. Let me explain.....if one thing is true about all of the past reviews here on TB and Head-Fi, its that these are extremely revealing IEMS. You will here details in your music you have never heard before. This is both good and bad. Its great when hear a some cool synth work, or buried guitar track, maybe some vocals you've never noticed. The bad....when your other IEMS, buds, or cans are compensating for the crappy MP3 or youtube video your listening to, the quads will not. Let me get one thing straight, not all MP3's and streaming media sound bad. Some sound good. However the ones that sound bad are the ones whom are super compressed, the ones that are mastered with tons of gain, etc. If you're going to split the use for these IEMS and use them for daily listening, pick your source material wisely.

My post purchase thoughts on the way the quads sound is positive. To my ears, nothing is hyped or over extended. The treble is present while being relaxed enough that is not fatiguing to listen. IMO, the treble execution is really rice. Shrilly, harsh, brittle treble is a buzz kill. The drivers on the quads present the upper end in a focused and pleasant way. Upper-mids and low-mids are neither scooped nor hyped. There are plenty of mids present that help give you sound stage and instrument separation. IMO, I think what people hear in these IEMS that they don't hear in other IEMS, [buds, or cans] is the dedicated sub-driver. If not for the sub-driver, I think the low end would be presented in a similar way found in many other IEMS, [buds, and cans]. The low end driver does a pretty good job of producing enough detail on the low end to give you note separation, clarity, etc.....while the sub-driver gives you that extra phat cushion often missing in other products. Don't get me wrong, Im not hearing the mountain of bass other people hear and sometimes complain about. I just hear a well balanced, FULL bass sound. When comparing my Quads to my Beyerdynamic DT770-PRO open back reference headphones; the Beyers sound unbalanced, no punch, a missing bottom end. The Beyers seem like they're all bout the treble, no bass (and no mids too, some def holes in the mid representation on the Beyers). When listening to my Quads, I feel I get the low end and mid detail I was missing on my Beyers. For what its worth, the Beyerdynamic DT770-PRO is a well respected, German made $275 pair of over the ear cans. They are not slouches by any means. Again, the Quads are more pleasing to listen to in about every aspect. I will give the Beyers one thing and thats comfort. They are nice cans. VERY comfortable to wear!! I'd still like to try a pair of closed back 880-PROS. However, I really don't feel like dropping another $200+ on cans. On a stage with no monitors, the open backed Beyers were kind nice since I wasn't isolated. I was able to get some FOH bleed in my ears that might have helped me hear some mid and low end detail I was missing otherwise. The other thing I have noticed is my 250k Beyers take waaaayy more gain to get going than my IEMS. And while this is pretty obvious, I need to say that you need VERY little gain to get the quad going. With that, be careful with knowing where your volume knobs are set before connection your quads to any sort of device. One last thing, I shrugged off getting the 6ft cord despite every review telling me NOT to get the 4ft cord. Get the 6ft cord.
 
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OK....So Ive the quads for a couple of weeks now. When I had first got them, I wore them at work at work for a couple days playing back MP3's and what not. Additionally, I had church band rehearsal and service that week....which is the reason I had bought them in the first place. I prob have about 10 hours under my belt with them, here are my thoughts.

So my IMMEDIATE impression when I inserted for the 1st time was "I don't get it, whats all the buzz about? And where's all the bass people are talking about?" After a few weeks, I can honestly say, I do get it. They are extremely good sounding monitors. However, if you've never tried IEMS before like myself; read peoples reviews with a grain of salt. There are a TON of reviews claiming these are a bass heavy IEM. To be honest, I just don't see it. IMO, I think the bass is well represented as to what you might here in your FOH mix. The bass is not bloated, hyped, or extended. Again, I think the bass is well represented, present, but balanced....well executed comes to my mind. I was expecting my head and mind to blown away with massive amounts of ooey gooey bass. Not so. In fact, when pushed to hard with a bad source (crappy MP3 or youtube video) you can get the quads to stress.

Speaking of source material, if you're putting crap in; you're gonna get crap out. Let me explain.....if one thing is true about all of the past reviews here on TB and Head-Fi, its that these are extremely revealing IEMS. You will here details in your music you have never heard before. This is both good and bad. Its great when hear a some cool synth work, or buried guitar track, maybe some vocals you've never noticed. The bad....when your other IEMS, buds, or cans are compensating for the crappy MP3 or youtube video your listening to, the quads will not. Let me get one thing straight, not all MP3's and streaming media sound bad. Some sound good. However the ones that sound bad are the ones whom are super compressed, the ones that are mastered with tons of gain, etc. If you're going to split the use for these IEMS and use them for daily listening, pick your source material wisely.

My post purchase thoughts on the way the quads sound is positive. To my ears, nothing is hyped or over extended. The treble is present while being relaxed enough that is not fatiguing to listen. IMO, the treble execution is really rice. Shrilly, harsh, brittle treble is a buzz kill. The drivers on the quads present the upper end in a focused and pleasant way. Upper-mids and low-mids are neither scooped nor hyped. There are plenty of mids present that help give you sound stage and instrument separation. IMO, I think what people hear in these IEMS that they don't hear in other IEMS, [buds, or cans] is the dedicated sub-driver. If not for the sub-driver, I think the low end would be presented in a similar way found in many other IEMS, [buds, and cans]. The low end driver does a pretty good job of producing enough detail on the low end to give you note separation, clarity, etc.....while the sub-driver gives you that extra phat cushion often missing in other products. Don't get me wrong, Im not hearing the mountain of bass other people hear and sometimes complain about. I just hear a well balanced, FULL bass sound. When comparing my Quads to my Beyerdynamic DT770-PRO open back reference headphones; the Beyers sound unbalanced, no punch, a missing bottom end. The Beyers seem like they're all bout the treble, no bass (and no mids too, some def holes in the mid representation on the Beyers). When listening to my Quads, I feel I get the low end and mid detail I was missing on my Beyers. For what its worth, the Beyerdynamic DT770-PRO is a well respected, German made $275 pair of over the ear cans. They are not slouches by any means. Again, the Quads are more pleasing to listen to in about every aspect. I will give the Beyers one thing and thats comfort. They are nice cans. VERY comfortable to wear!! I'd still like to try a pair of closed back 880-PROS. However, I really don't feel like dropping another $200+ on cans. On a stage with no monitors, the open backed Beyers were kind nice since I wasn't isolated. I was able to get some FOH bleed in my ears that might have helped me hear some mid and low end detail I was missing otherwise. The other thing I have noticed is my 250k Beyers take waaaayy more gain to get going than my IEMS. And while this is pretty obvious, I need to say that you need VERY little gain to get the quad going. With that, be careful with knowing where your volume knobs are set before connection your quads to any sort of device. One last thing, I shrugged off getting the 6ft cord despite every review telling me NOT to get the 4ft cord. Get the 6ft cord.

While I appreciate your review of the Quads and I'm glad you like them, you need to remember that some of us don't need a lot of low end in our IEMs. We obviously have different tastes in what we want to hear, but that doesn't at all make you right and my opinion of them wrong. I've recommended them every chance I get and even though I've mentioned that I don't need quite all the awesome low-end capabilities, I've never slagged them or said it was too much. In fact, 1964 even states that the Quads are made with drummers and bass players in mind.

I wouldn't trade my Quads for anything in the world. And I'm very happy that I can slightly lower the low end of my send to get the kind of balanced tone that I prefer.
 
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While I appreciate your review of the Quads and I'm glad you like them, you need to remember that some of us don't need a lot of low end in our IEMs. We obviously have different tastes in what we want to hear, but that doesn't at all make you right and my opinion of them wrong. I've recommended them every chance I get and even though I've mentioned that I don't need quite all the awesome low-end capabilities, I've never slagged them or said it was too much. In fact, 1964 even states that the Quads are made with drummers and bass players in mind.

I wouldn't trade my Quads for anything in the world. And I'm very happy that I can slightly lower the low end of my send to get the kind of balanced tone that I prefer.
Geri O, I think perhaps you understood g4string differently than I did. I didn't take g4string as putting his quads down by any means, though he is certainly entitled to. I think he is simply clarifying his take on the "bass" everyone seems to talk about as it pertains to the quads.

g4string, I think I know what your saying, which if not mistaken I too mentioned this in an earlier post. Correct me if I'm wrong but what think your saying is similar to my example of Bose or Beats headphones.
Those are "bass heavy" headphones and do a good job of putting out that ooey gooey bass; that sound however is definitely artificial and not a very accurate representation of 'real' bass. The quads on the other hand, transmit an accurate and articulate bass spectrum. In no way do I think the quads are actually bass booming quads like beats or bose but those headphones couldn't stand a chance at cranking out a low B through them without sounding distorted.
 
Geri O, I think perhaps you understood g4string differently than I did. I didn't take g4string as putting his quads down by any means, though he is certainly entitled to. I think he is simply clarifying his take on the "bass" everyone seems to talk about as it pertains to the quads.

g4string, I think I know what your saying, which if not mistaken I too mentioned this in an earlier post. Correct me if I'm wrong but what think your saying is similar to my example of Bose or Beats headphones.
Those are "bass heavy" headphones and do a good job of putting out that ooey gooey bass; that sound however is definitely artificial and not a very accurate representation of 'real' bass. The quads on the other hand, transmit an accurate and articulate bass spectrum. In no way do I think the quads are actually bass booming quads like beats or bose but those headphones couldn't stand a chance at cranking out a low B through them without sounding distorted.

Agreed. And yes, what you are saying is what I had thought my previous review had done an adequate job of explaining.
 
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I agree with the sentiment of that the bass is not overdone the way the mainstream bass-tuned headphones and buds are advertised and represented. To me, I heard each note more clearly with my quads and THAT is what blew me away. That sub-driver is what makes it - it's like my brain is being tricked into actually "feeling" the bass notes rather than just hearing them - but it's subtle, not overdone.
 
I think my V6-s's have a lot of bass, for sure. If anything, I feel the bass makes it so I can't hear the upper midrange or treble as much. I find when I EQ the lows out a bit, it completely uncovers the uppermids and treble. I think it's because they're INSIDE my ear, and that definitely affects the way sound is perceived.
 
What I'm super intrigued by are the new ADEL in-ears. I'm not sure I fully understand the concept. Any of you get an idea of what they are? Or better yet, anyone get to demo them at Namm?!
I did. I spent about 2 hours (the NAMM equivalent of forever) at the 1964 booth trying out different models. Short answer is my two fave models were the A8's and V6. The A10's and A12's were too trebly or bass-ey for my taste but I can see where vocalists would dig them. The A8's had the most overall balanced sound to my ears. I thought the upper mid-mids were phenomenal on the V6. I could hear the finger noise on the bass strings on Steely Dan's Peg (I used that tune as my overall reference). The gliss popped out at me more than a red wall on HGTV :-) But I felt the V6's lacked a touch of the bottom end compared to the A8's.
I will say, the A series ain't cheap! If I were on a budget - which I am - I would be happy with the V6's.
Caveat: doubtless the molded ear pieces will make a world of difference compared to the disposable insert used at NAMM.
On last tidbit. 1964 was set up next to the drum section. Even using the disposable inserts, I had no problem blocking out the Neanderthal tribe jamming at full volume 20 feet away from me.
 
Geri O, I think perhaps you understood g4string differently than I did. I didn't take g4string as putting his quads down by any means, though he is certainly entitled to. I think he is simply clarifying his take on the "bass" everyone seems to talk about as it pertains to the quads.

g4string, I think I know what your saying, which if not mistaken I too mentioned this in an earlier post. Correct me if I'm wrong but what think your saying is similar to my example of Bose or Beats headphones.
Those are "bass heavy" headphones and do a good job of putting out that ooey gooey bass; that sound however is definitely artificial and not a very accurate representation of 'real' bass. The quads on the other hand, transmit an accurate and articulate bass spectrum. In no way do I think the quads are actually bass booming quads like beats or bose but those headphones couldn't stand a chance at cranking out a low B through them without sounding distorted.

No, I didn't take it as a slam on the Quads at all. Perhaps, I took it as discounting my need to lower the bass in mine. Hey, different strokes. And I don't feel that way so much anymore.

The common thing, regardless of how we adjust them to suit our individual tastes, seems to be that we all love our Quads!!:D
 
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