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2 octave scales

#4
insomniac2295 said:
anyone know where i can find some easy to read 2 octave scales tabbed out for a 4 string. my instructor taught me how to do them in a lesson a couple days ago but i already forgot and i cant read his hand writing :smug:

and what about 3 octave scales?
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Try Google? You really shouldn't be dependent on tabs. If your instructor isn't teaching you to read music, find another teacher. There are tons of two and three octave scale books you can find at your local music store. All of them are pretty much the same so get one of them, they'll set you back a good $5.
 
#5
I agree about reading, but here is another suggestion for learn scales. Learn the pattern of whole and half steps; root to 2nd=whole step, 2nd to 3rd=whole step, 3rd to 4th=half step, 4th to 5th=whole step, 5th to 6th=whole, 6th to 7th=whole, 7th to octave=half. This pattern is the same in all keys, you'll also discover a fingering pattern that will translate to all closed (no open strings) keys. As you're learning this on the bass, you'll begin to hear the pattern. Learn the sound (shape) of the scale that shape will also be helpful in learning scales in all keys and octaves.

Three octave scales have the same patterns and sound as two, just higher. Not all keys can be played in 3 octaves on the bass. You can play them to the highest note available on your bass and then descend to the lowest note of that scale on the bass and back to the root.
 
#6
im not really at all interested in learning to read. i can read treble clef from prior experience as a trumpet player but not bass clef as easily. my teacher who's also a good friend of mine knows that i dont want to learn to read so he doesnt bother try to teach me something that i dont want to learn. plus it would all rely on me sitting down and figuring out and memorizing each line and space that corresponds to which note. nothing that a teacher can really help me with.

all i want to do is learn my neck
 
#7
Learning your neck will come from understanding the musical language.
Do you know and understand how major scales are derived from the chromatic scale using the formula: TTSTTTS. (T for tone or 2 frets, and S for semitone 1 fret)?

Learning scales and verbalising the notes as you play them can be a great way of learning the notes no the neck. Also try learning all of the notes in a set position or fret range... ie. from the open string the 3rd fret on all strings.

Also remembering common patterns, and how they relate to intervals can help... ie. an octave is 2 frets up and 2 strings up, (up relating to pitch), when starting on the E or A strings... etc etc...
 
#8
insomniac2295 said:
im not really at all interested in learning to read. i can read treble clef from prior experience as a trumpet player but not bass clef as easily. my teacher who's also a good friend of mine knows that i dont want to learn to read so he doesnt bother try to teach me something that i dont want to learn. plus it would all rely on me sitting down and figuring out and memorizing each line and space that corresponds to which note. nothing that a teacher can really help me with.

all i want to do is learn my neck
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As an instructor I agree, fundamentally, with those who will give you grief about not learning to read etc. etc. But since you have musical experience, and a clear goal in mind, I'll lay off ;). Assuming you understand how tablature works, and basic music theory, why not write out your own? Though it's not the path of lease resistance, IMHO, you'll learn better by having to figure out where the notes are, write it down, and then play through it. Your teacher will be able to check your work and then show you some different fingerings and patterns. If you do this in all keys and at least 2 octaves you will, at the very least, learn the neck quite thoroughly.



Good luck!
 
#10
If you are ready for two octave or more scale you should know enough to start making your own fingerings up. Start with one octave scale on one string. That help understand scale construction. Then one octave on two-strings you start developing a feel for shift points. Two octaves on two strings. You should have a good enough feel now for three or more strings, multiple shift points, and going from lowest appropriate note on bass to highest. Then start doing two octave with arpeggios, scales in intervals, and patterns. Remember have to do this all ascending and descending that is why knowing scale construction is so important you'll find many times you don't descend the same way as you ascend.
 
#13
Well, I have 3 fingerings for every scale. I don't have it down for all the scales and modes 'cos I'm a beginner, but I can tell that it is really usefull, at least for the major scale and dorian mode.

I'll leave it here in image. It's just the major scale, but then its easy to apply it for any scale.
 

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I strongly suggest just working it our for yourself. There is no substitute for knowing every note on your instrument. Just map out the fretboard on paper and fill in every note and then work out your own fingerings trying more than one approach. After a surprisingly short period of time, you'll know your fretboard perfectly.
 
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Crazyeelboy said:
I strongly suggest just working it our for yourself. There is no substitute for knowing every note on your instrument. Just map out the fretboard on paper and fill in every note and then work out your own fingerings trying more than one approach. After a surprisingly short period of time, you'll know your fretboard perfectly.
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You don't even need your bass in front of you. Once you know how any given scale is made up in regards to whole steps and half steps, you can write out your own fingerings. It is beneficial to know as many fingerings as possible. Writing them out will help solidify it that much faster.
 
#17
Guys, it's not top secrete stuff. Give the OP a break and help him out. I do refuse to give him tabs, but, he does need a nudge....

Major scale box with note names shown
G-|----|--A-|----|--B-|--C-|----|--D-|----|--E-|----|--F#-|--G-|
D-|----|--E-|----|-F#-|--G-|----|----|
A-|----|--B-|--C-|----|--D-|----|----|
E-|----|-----|--G-|----|--A-|----|----|

Place the pattern On the G note 4th string 3rd fret and the G major scale awaits you. To finish up the 2nd octave just go up the 1string.

Major scale box with interval numbers shown
G-|----|--2-|----|--3-|--4-|----|----|
D-|----|--6-|----|--7-|--8-|----|----|
A-|----|--3-|--4-|----|--5-|----|----|
E-|----|-----|-R-|----|--2-|----|----|

Scales
Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6
Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7
Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7
Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7
Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7

http://www.cyberfretbass.com/scales/basic/page2.php
The red circle is the root note - place the root note 4th string 3rd fret and the G major scale await you. 4th string 5th fret and the A major scale await you. Yep, 4th string 8th fret and the C major scale notes are waiting for you.

Major Scale Chart
C D E F G A B...............Notice the C scale has no Sharps
G A B C D E F#.............and the G scale has one, the F#
D E F# G A B C#...........and the D scale keeps the F# and
A B C# D E F# G#.........adds the C#. Then the A scale keeps
E F# G# A B C# D#.......everything and adds the G#. See how
B C# D# E F# G# A#.....it builds on it's self.
F# G# A# B C# D# E#
C# D# E# F# G# A# B#
F G A Bb C D E.............Look what happens with the flat scales
Bb C D Eb F G A...........F has one the Bb, then the Bb scale keeps
Eb F G Ab Bb C D.........it's self and adds the the Eb. Same thing
Ab Bb C Db Eb F G.......the sharp scales did...
Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C
Gb Ab Bb Cb Db Eb F
Cb Db Eb Fb Gb Ab Bb
Memory pegs:
See God Destroy All Earth By F#irey C#haos. Order of the scales with sharps.
Fat cats go down alleys eating birds. Order of the sharps.
Farmer brown eats apple dumplings greasily cooked. Order of the scales with flats.
The key signature is showing three sharps. What scale has three sharps? C has none, G has one, D has two, A has three. Which sharps? Fat = F#, Cat = C# and Go = G# so the A major scale has three sharps, F#, C# and G#.

Natural Minor Scale Chart
A B C D E F G ................Notice how the 6th column of the
E F# G A B C D................Major scale becomes the 1st column
B C# D E F# G A..............in the minor scale and how the 7th
F# G# A B C# D E............column of the Major scale is now the
C# D# E F# G# A B..........2nd column in the minor scale. And
G# A# B C# D# E F#........yep, the 1st column in the Major scale
D# E# F# G# A# B C#......is now the 3rd column, etc. etc.
A# B# C# D# E# F# G#....Ask your self why? Hint, think relative minor.
D E F G A Bb C
G A Bb C D Eb F
C D Eb F G Ab Bb
F G Ab Bb C Db Eb
Bb C Db Eb F Gb Ab
Eb F Gb Ab Bb Cb Db
Ab Bb Cb Db Eb Fb Gb

Now find those notes on your fretboard.
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Good luck.
 
#18
if you want to use more of the neck, all four strings, three hand postions ... Key of G Major for example ...

E string first finger fret 3, slides to fret 5, third finger down on fret 7, pinky fret 8 ... pointer drops to A string fret 5, slides to fret 7, third finger down on fret 9, pinky fret 10 (one octave) ... pointer drops to D string fret 7, third finger on fret 9, pinky fret 10 ... pointer drops to G string fret 7, slides to fret 9, third finger on fret 11, pinky fret 12 (second octave) ...


very simple repetitive fingering, uses much of the neck, and all four strings ... BTW, this is from BG for Dummies as an example of those mentioned in an earlier post ...
 

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