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[yodedude2]

I think lots more people use alchohol responsibly as well. So much for the accuracy of this poll.

and so much for the accuracy of confirmation bias.

 

[yodedude2]

the poll is invalid. there is no entry for peyote.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

My point is that the fact that more people abuse alcohol than other drugs is primarily due to the fact that it is more accessible, not that it is worse than other drugs. It is a common argument by some here, especially when marijuana is brought up.

Ad no one bats an eye with alcohol in the US when compared to lighting up, evidenced by the last thread. That's what we call 'conditioning' by the tavern and alcohol lobby

 

[buldog5151bass]

Ad no one bats an eye with alcohol in the US when compared to lighting up, evidenced by the last thread. That's what we call 'conditioning' by the tavern and alcohol lobby

Nobody bats an eye? What do you call all the lowering of DUI standards and stops on roads? The fact is one is legal and one is illegal.

The overall opinion here and elsewhere shows the concern at TB (and most musicians) is NOT what the drug of choice is, but that people playing impaired is a problem.

 

[brianrost]

Ad no one bats an eye with alcohol in the US when compared to lighting up, evidenced by the last thread. That's what we call 'conditioning' by the tavern and alcohol lobby

I was once driving on a long road trip and after about 10 hours got some No-Doz at a truck stop pee break so I could drive another hour or so to the Virginia state line before I got someone else to take the wheel. One of the other guys saw me taking the pills and said "Whoa!!! Don't take those!!! Just drink some coffee!!!"

 

[matthewbrown]

Interesting that alcohol gets so many votes, when so many musicians are performing in bars to promote the sale of alcohol.

 

[buldog5151bass]

true dat. alcohol, for centuries, has been and is the drug of choice for the privileged elite. that's a hard draw to resist for the 'common man' that identifies with the privileged elite.

Privileged elite? I guess you haven't been watching many beer commercials. Never mind cocaine a "common folk" drug...

 

[mrjim123]

Definitely alcohol. I played in one bar that allowed each band member TWO free alcoholic drinks per set! They might as well put "play like crap" in the contract. Two drinks a night is about my limit. Sometimes if I'm a little tired I might even drink coffee.

 

[yodedude2]

Privileged elite? I guess you haven't been watching many beer commercials. Never mind cocaine a "common folk" drug...

it's okay. it's a "trickle-down" that goes back centuries. think of the lobbyists in the state and federal governments. there are more examples, but alcohol trumps all.

edit: in this context you provide, i would nominate "meth" as the "common folk" drug.

 

[Medicine Man]

I expected alchohol to be a strong contender, but not to just run away with the vote.

 

[ThudThudThud]

I may have told this story before...
I once attended a taping for a live band based TV show as an audience member.
The producers plied us with wine and beer all day in hopes of making us boisterous, loud, and bop about a bit during the performances. We obliged. The bands were great, it was a quite intimate setting, and a good time was had by all.
A certain Frankie Miller was called to the stage for his performance (his interview had happened earlier). He had also been partaking of the fermented beverages.
After watching him try to tune his guitar for 25 minutes a rather sad director put his arm around him and said, "Sorry Frankie..." He was escorted from the stage.

 

[yodedude2]

Nobody bats an eye? What do you call all the lowering of DUI standards and stops on roads? The fact is one is legal and one is illegal....

sure, but that's an standardized authoritarian response. why is it legal, and why are the others illegal? lots of things that were legal aren't any longer, and vice versa. context matters.

 

[grinx]

5 member band
4 of us drink too much as part of existence

2 weeks ago we had a gig.
Singer is the rhythm guitar player.
He seems to have the biggest daily issue with the firewater
He told a friend on the way to the gig he was going to stop at 1 drink before showtime.
When I get there 2 hours before first-note, he was on his 3rd drink, then a beer, then 2 more.

He forgot lyrics, slurred and took OVER 6 minutes to change from acoustic to electric. Looked wasted as F also.

6+ minutes of dead air recorded live. He was also trying to retune as the weather was hot n disgusting.
I had to cover him on some vocals.

Showed him the video. He agreed it was not good. Hopefully he remembers it for next time.

I am all for partying your you-know-whats off, but it can't impede public performances.

 

[aguacateojos]

Different take on this subject - the keyboardist in my nine-piece group counts off many of our songs and there is a clear impact on tempos when he is up on caffeine. And not in the direction you would expect. Stuff DRAGS. It is unbearable.

 

[buldog5151bass]

it's okay. it's a "trickle-down" that goes back centuries. think of the lobbyists in the state and federal governments. there are more examples, but alcohol trumps all.

edit: in this context you provide, i would nominate "meth" as the "common folk" drug.

I see a LOT more people getting drunk on beer than high on meth.

You can get a can of beer for $.99, or a bottle of wine of spirits for thousands...

 

[the zombywoof]

I have played all my life,been through all the drugs and alcohol seen friends come and go because of it. I never indulged before a gig. 4 years ago I had six heart surgeries, almost didn't pull through. but I did . Last year I got the band back together with new guitarist. smoked a lot of weed and preached how it was better than alcohol all the time. I had just got a new kustom groove 1200 and was lovin life! 3 days ago at practice he smoked so much he couldn't play,when I mentioned it he jumped me and I had to throw him out which wasn't easy, after which I had a stroke and can no longer use my left arm.Everything we do in life affects more than just ourselves . people need to realize that.

 

[Coolhandjjl]

Nobody bats an eye? What do you call all the lowering of DUI standards and stops on roads? The fact is one is legal and one is illegal.

The overall opinion here and elsewhere shows the concern at TB (and most musicians) is NOT what the drug of choice is, but that people playing impaired is a problem.

Lowering of BAC levels doesn't require abstinence. One can have a drink an hour and still be below legal limits in most situations. But I am in support of total sober driving, BAC 0%.

I also talked to a policeman once about people at bar time getting into their cars, and I mentioned that the majority are probably over the BAC limit, so why don't they just round up everyone? He replied that they know that, so they wait and look for the worst offender that's likely to cause an accident, and the rest get off scott-free.

But even in states where it's been decriminalized or made legal, most people outside the arts and entertainment industry still view drinking alcohol in full view of everybody, (such as on-stage) as being okay, but weed is not. As I mentioned, at least here in the US, it's partly because of the alcohol lobby. They had a vested interest in making and keeping weed illegal. Conservatives also place alcohol as okay, weed is not, for no scientific reason. If Da Vinci had painted the last supper with a hookah on the table instead of a glasses of wine, it would be the other way around.

 

[LBS-bass]

Alcohol, by far. The other stuff happens, but not as much, due to expense and other factors such as legality. Weed was illegal for a long time (still is in some places) so it was more difficult to indulge in that during shows. Alcohol, on the other hand, is to this day freely available at many shows, and 30 years ago clubs I worked in used to serve as much alcohol to the band as we wanted, for free.

 

[BwanaDust]

Beer is horrible for your voice.

 

[Magthegrate]

Booze.
I learned a while ago that playing with anything more than a slight buzz felt to much like work. I had to concentrate WAY to much.

I save that till after the show.