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2 wasted 2 play

Destroyer of gigs

  • Alcohol

    Votes: 454 82.5%
  • Weed

    Votes: 74 13.5%
  • Cocaine

    Votes: 38 6.9%
  • Opioids

    Votes: 47 8.5%
  • Coffee

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • LSD/molly/shrooms

    Votes: 43 7.8%
  • Freebase carrots

    Votes: 60 10.9%

  • Total voters
    550
Yeah, it seems like sometimes any attempt at a reasoning, non-polarized viewpoint is seen as extreme, anyway. If I don't get 100% on board that "all intoxicants, all the time" train, I'm some sort of puritanical narc.

Uh, no. I just don't think every situation is appropriate for a good ol' drunk-n-high. If it impairs my performance or that of someone I'm working with, THAT is what I have a problem with. Not the substance itself, or its use in other situations.
I agree.
 
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Speaking of DABS.... For the uninitiated, this a concentrate vaporized in the red-hot bowl of a water pipe. Potency varies, but a dab can easily equal half a joint or more.
There is a pot shop a block from me (since burned down) that served dabs (not in accordance with local law) and cowboys would stroll in, have six dabs (the equivalent of three or four joints, and within ten minutes) and then return outside to pilot their cars in the heavy L.A. traffic. LOT of stoned drivers in L.A. Driving here in the afternoon around quitting time, you see working class guys hitting pipes behind the wheel of their trucks and vans. It's the new Miller Time, and my friend observed that the little film canisters cluttering the gutters here are the new beer can.
There was a recent report about the glut of weed in Oregon.
Not enough folks buying it up. Flowers being turned into oils and dabs.
Weed rotting in garbage bags.

Oh the horror of it :eek:

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the little film canisters cluttering the gutters here are the new beer can.
Those must be saved film canisters because digital photography has pretty much eliminated the film sales. I saved a drawer full because they are so ... useful. I have seen a new larger silver plastic canister being used by people who buy from the state. (not from then State, just taxed and regulated by the State)
btw, answer is alcohol. The very basis of alcohol intoxication is starving the brain from oxygen, it's base level is destructive to life, it kills Fast and from that point on it's down hill except for drunken philosophers who'd better stop asap.
 
I fired a keyboard player for turning up drunk to a Saturday afternoon gig (still drunk from a long heavy Friday night). This was the third alcohol related issue we'd had with him. (I would have fired him after the first but he was a buddy of the guitarist and he persuaded me not to twice.)

What clinched it for the guitarist was that we were playing an afternoon BBQ for a guy who had put a steady stream of lucrative corporate gigs our way. He said there were no more until we got rid of him.


(Different band) We had keys player (a cop) who usually drove to gigs so didn't drink but got a lift to one so had a few beers, then a few more, then .... He had no idea what he was playing but by the look on his face he thought it sounded great, we didn't so muted him in the FOH.

He phoned everyone the following day to apologise and agreed that we did the right thing by muting his mic and keyboards.
 
I suppose overindulgence (however defined) in any of that list could kill a good vibe, but I’m going to disagree with the majority on pot vs alcohol. Most of those with whom I play control their intake of alcohol, and a reasonable amount doesn’t seem to negatively impact their playing (I don’t currently play with any drunks, but agree it can be a killer).

OTOH, I’m always struggling with band mates’ performances after a bowl or two, and I play with a lot of pot smokers/vapers. With pot, the idea is to get “out there” it seems. It often effects their sense of time and choice of notes, let alone their “presence” in the moment. I’ve gotten pretty used to it, but I can’t pretend it ever enhances the musical experience for me or my band mates, let alone the audience. I've no objection at all to weed, though I don't use it, only to the obvious detrimental effect it has on certain players' ability to perform.
 
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Not enough votes allowed to check off all that really do it, but honestly, do you really want to play with someone tripping bear ****s on LSD? Alcohol itself isn't the worst of them, by far. It's a lot easier to get a measured response from the amount of alcohol you consume than that ganja cig you smoked outside before the show. Of course, the bottom line is a man has to know his limitations! (Thanks Harry)

Besides in the old R&B band I played in, the only way to get a good gig out of our guitarist was to get a Gin & Tonic in him after we set up. Otherwise, stiff as a board, lifeless solos, and an uptight pain...
 
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Besides in the old R&B band I played in, the only way to get a good gig out of our guitarist was to get a Gin & Tonic in him after we set up. Otherwise, stiff as a board, lifeless solos, and an uptight pain...

I too knew guitarist that needed a drink (or ten) to access his emotional side, which was the well-spring for the corker solos of which he was capable -- but only when lubricated.
 
I’m honestly surprised cocaine didn’t get more votes. What kind of sissy establishments are you guys playing? They would basically pay you with it back in the day and half the band would be playing one handed because the other was trying to stop the nasal drip from pouring down their face. Seventeen set breaks and the bathroom was always occupied...coke easily comes in a close second behind booze, IME.
 
I really should have read the OP's post.
Alcohol if we are going to destroy a gig. I remember one night my old guitarist was going to come over with his wife and we were going drink and play.
Man i kept getting worse and worse -this was when i used to play bass and sing too.
Some people can party like a painted pinata and play the musix -I am not one of these people.
 
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I was the driver/roadie/mentor for a young band at a recording session. The lead singer and bass player (brothers) disappeared to find some food but while they were out smoked some magic mushrooms. Their performances started ok but went downhill fast.

I ended up playing most of the bass and the lead guitarist sang most of the vocals. The recording engineer put all the vocals through a vocal processor and it was hard to tell who sang what. To this day the 2 brothers believe that they played and sang on all the recordings, they probably managed about 10%.
 
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