2 Weeks working for Mesa/Boogie - Some thoughts

[mmbongo]

Sounds like you had a sudden harsh realization that Mesa/Boogie is a business and not some guy in his garage hand building amps for his buddies.

 

[David Jayne]

There are plenty of terms that were once considered commonplace in society that now would be deplorable to say out loud.

Like 'Chinamen.' 'Colords.' 'Guinea.' 'Chink.' The list is endless. I remember my grandfather, who was a wealthy, respected member of his community discussing in not-so-flattering tones 'The blacks' and the 'wops.' This is northern NJ, circa 1970 or so. Thankfully times have changed.

 

[slobake]

@Pills Are Yummy. It's always tough getting fired or laid off from a job. When it happened to me I eas pretty angry at first. Eventully I worked through the anger and moved on. Then I was able to learn what I could from the experience and try and avoid the same mistakes..
This could be a good opportunity for you to pull back and do some honest self-evaluating. That can be painful and tough but it is worth the effort. What you take away from that can either help you or hinder you in the future. That is up to you.
It doesn't matter what our opinions are here on TB.. We love to debate about these things. For us it is just a discussion but you are the guy without a job. I wish you well with that.
I used to run a crew of telecommunications techs. I had more than twenty direct reports. When I interviewed potental employees I looked for three things:

Can this person do the job?
Will they get along with the other workers?
Can I afford them?

I hope your next job goes better.

 

[Goatrope]

Hey OP, thanks for sharing your story. It's an interesting peek inside MB, the manufacturing company. Sorry it didn't work out.

Sounds to me it was a really poor interview process. It didn't reveal the gap between the job and your aspirations.

It's tough being competitive as an American manufacturing company. I didn't feel surprised when I read they wanted you to just get units out the door. That's manufacturing. You may be more suited to a marketing role. I don't know your background but getting paid for ideas is great work if you can get it. Unfortunately it takes a lot of time to develop to the point where any company will truly value your input. Especially if you're starting in the assembly area.

Good luck in your pursuits.

 

[two fingers]

Hey OP, thanks for sharing your story. It's an interesting peek inside MB, the manufacturing company. Sorry it didn't work out.

Sounds to me it was a really poor interview process. It didn't reveal the gap between the job and your aspirations.

It's tough being competitive as an American manufacturing company. I didn't feel surprised when I read they wanted you to just get units out the door. That's manufacturing. You may be more suited to a marketing role. I don't know your background but getting paid for ideas is great work if you can get it. Unfortunately it takes a lot of time to develop to the point where any company will truly value your input. Especially if you're starting in the assembly area.

Good luck in your pursuits.

Very well stated.

 

[catcauphonic]

Ha! 44 years old actually. I am just really tired of all of the labels. And I am REEEEEEALLY tired of the labels having to be changed to multiple sub-set labels for groups within groups.

I promise I don't hate anyone on the planet. In fact, I feel that all the labels PROMOTE hate rather than reduce it. So I usually take every opportunity to rail against them. We absolutely needed to get away from the Archie Bunker mentality. But I think we went a little too far in the Michael Stivic direction personally.

But that's a topic for the lobby. Sorry for the derail.

Now back to Mesa sucks!

(Calm down. Just a joke. I own and love a Walkabout Scout stack.)

Best. sitcom. ever! No canned laughter needed

 

[two fingers]

Best. sitcom. ever! No canned laughter needed

"Little by little...... Piece by piece..... you eat my haht out Ochy."

Good stuff.

Whenever my wife gets on my nerves (which is rare) I start my pending rant with ......
"Aw geez Edit. Whataya twahkin' about ovuh deh?"

 

[two fingers]

@Pills Are Yummy. It's always tough getting fired or laid off from a job. When it happened to me I eas pretty angry at first. Eventully I worked through the anger and moved on. Then I was able to learn what I could from the experience and try and avoid the same mistakes..
This could be a good opportunity for you to pull back and do some honest self-evaluating. That can be painful and tough but it is worth the effort. What you take away from that can either help you or hinder you in the future. That is up to you.
It doesn't matter what our opinions are here on TB.. We love to debate about these things. For us it is just a discussion but you are the guy without a job. I wish you well with that.
I used to run a crew of telecommunications techs. I had more than twenty direct reports. When I interviewed potental employees I looked for three things:

Can this person do the job?
Will they get along with the other workers?
Can I afford them?

I hope your next job goes better.

When I grow up, I want to be able to state my opinions as eloquently as you usually do.

 

[Lobster11]

Hey OP, thanks for sharing your story. It's an interesting peek inside MB, the manufacturing company. Sorry it didn't work out.

Sounds to me it was a really poor interview process. It didn't reveal the gap between the job and your aspirations.

It's tough being competitive as an American manufacturing company. I didn't feel surprised when I read they wanted you to just get units out the door. That's manufacturing. You may be more suited to a marketing role. I don't know your background but getting paid for ideas is great work if you can get it. Unfortunately it takes a lot of time to develop to the point where any company will truly value your input. Especially if you're starting in the assembly area.

Good luck in your pursuits.

Yeah, this is what I think too. You were excited about a job that involved amps, which you love and are knowledgeable about. But in a sense this position didn't really have anything to do with amps: You might as well have been on an assembly line building cars or refrigerators or widgets, inserting tab A into slot B all day.

I'd say that if there is anything to be bitter about, it's that after a promising interview process, they stuck you with a job that didn't at all match your interests or skill set. But mostly I wouldn't feel bitter; I'd feel glad that you got out of there when you did. It sounds to me like this was destined to be a dead-end job, and that 10 years from now you'd be lucky to have been promoted to the role of assistant supervisor on the assembly line, showing people how to insert tab A into slot B. It seems like there was little chance that you would ever have found your way out of a low-level assembly-line job and into the kind of position that you were really hoping for.

 

[yodedude2]

@Pills Are Yummy.
I used to run a crew of telecommunications techs. I had more than twenty direct reports. When I interviewed potental employees I looked for three things:

Can this person do the job?
Will they get along with the other workers?
Can I afford them?

I hope your next job goes better.

seconded. a bad fit on both sides.

i hereby nominate mesa engineering for an episode of 'undercover boss'.

 

[slobake]

How in the world do people survive on 13/hour in california?

Live with your mom and dad in a room off the garage. No offence meant here, but that wage makes it very tough to live here and have things like a car, electronic devices and other things that we all like. Some people do it though. You can get by with very little if you reject consumerism. There are so many things that we have that aren't really necessesities.
A long time ago in a galaxy far away I dealt with low wages by sharing a home with a bunch of others hippies. We were happy having food, clothing and a place to live. There was a freedom in that. I do know some younglings who still live this way.

 

[two fingers]

Live with your mom and dad in a room off the garage. No offence meant here, but that wage makes it very tough to live here and have things like a car, electronic devices and other things that we all like. Some people do it though. You can get by with very little if you reject consumerism. There are so many things that we have that aren't really necessesities.
A long time ago in a galaxy far away I dealt with low wages by sharing a home with a bunch of others hippies. We were happy having food, clothing and a place to live. There was a freedom in that. I do know some younglings who still live this way.

My mom and dad started their married life in half a duplex with two trifold lawn chairs, a transistor radio and a roll of craft paper turned on its side for a table as their only furniture. My mother still says that is her favorite time in her life though.

Their last half dozen cars cost more than the house they bought the next year (And still live in).

 

[slobake]

My mom and dad started their married life in half a duplex with two trifold lawn chairs, a transistor radio and a roll of craft paper turned on its side for a table as their only furniture. My mother still says that is her favorite time in her life though.

Their last half dozen cars cost more than the house they bought the next year (And still live in).

They sound like some of my old friends.
At one time I wired a cheap transistor radio through a record player I found in the gargage. That is what I used to listen to baseball games. My living room sofa was the extra bench seat from a VW Bus.
Okay, now I am starting to sound like one of those old farts who rambles on about how I used to walk ten miles through the snow to get to school.

 

[Goad]

How in the world do people survive on 13/hour in california?

Because they're Hispanic or Oriental?

I too did not know that the term "Oriental" was offensive. I'll throw out my Oriental Shorthair Cat and Oriental rug, and cancel my subscription to Oriental Art Magazine immediately!!

 

[loveandbass]

Because they're Hispanic or Oriental?

I too did not know that the term "Oriental" was offensive. I'll throw out my Oriental Shorthair Cat and Oriental rug, and cancel my subscription to Oriental Art Magazine immediately!!

WHOOOOSH

 

[Goad]

Holy crap!! I just realized it linked my shorthair cat to an overstock.com item!!!

 

[David Jayne]

I apologize to the OP if I seemed to be harsh. I do admire your ambition, and I'm sure you have talent and the right place at the right time will reward you for it. Don't give up. Just understand that when you come into a situation at the bottom, you will be there awhile and it's good for you to learn things from the ground up. Always respect those around you there, even though you may consider yourself 'above' it, and them. I do wish you good fortune and I'm sure you'll find it.

 

[Goad]

Make sure you patent your ideas/inventions BEFORE bringing them up. If I invent something, the company I work for gets the credit and the patent. Make sure you read the fine print. Next time, keep your brain open and your mouth shut.. listen and learn, and take ideas away instead of giving them out.
Start your own company using that knowledge. Start from your garage, go on shark tank, start a gofundme thing or something. Learn from this!

 

[nutdog]

There's another side to this story but I doubt we'll get it.

And did someone really say white? I prefer lightly tanned and creamy.

 

[JFOC]

I'll throw out my Oriental Shorthair Cat and Oriental rug, and cancel my subscription to Oriental Art Magazine immediately!!

Its considered offensive when applied to people, not objects. Cats are rarely offended, unless you pet them when they don't want to be pet. Or don't pet them enough.