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2012 NHL Offseason Thread
- Thread starter MJ5150
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Speaking of juniors, there might be some good news: the last time the NHL locked out the players, everyone was therefore available for the 2005 World Junior Championship. That worked out well for Canada....
The bummer about all these NHL guys running off to other leagues is they are taking away jobs from other guys who planned to play on those teams. As soon as the lockout ends, they'll come running back to the NHL, hopefully those guys who got bumped can get their positions back. In the meantime though, they aren't playing and getting better which some of them need to do.
-Mike
-Mike
Because, you know, all the players are on $14 million dollar contracts...
You're totally forgetting that most players on their entry deal, and all two way players make less than 750,000 a year. And that's not counting the fact that they make pennies on the dollar when they get sent down to the AHL. Just about everyone under 27 fits into the "entry level deal" categlry because of restricted free agency.
At 750k, that's $9000 a game. After you factor in morning skates, long hours during the season, travel time, physical upkeep in the summer so you keep your job in the winter, the physical demands and risks you take to be on the ice, etc, I'd say they probably make a lot closer to your average Joe than the owners do.
I think I mentioned this earlier in this thread. That burns me up. I can't think of anything more insulting than a friggin multi-millionaire taking my job because he won't sign off on a CBA with his own league, believing he won't be getting paid enough. That's asinine.
It sure is, and just another reason for me to tell the NHL to get lost. I'd feel the same as you if it happened to me.
-Mike
Average and median are not the same thing. If you factor the weight that the largest contracts have on the average, it pretty much becomes useless for this purpose.
The median salary is around 1.6 million. That means that, at full value of their contracts (not being scratched, sent to the AHL, etc.), 50% of NHL'ers make 1.6 million or less per year. Then you have the income tax, which can be as high as 10-15% depending on where they live. Insurance comes off the top as well. Accountants and agents get their fair share of that too, and some of those charge egregious amounts. After all their costs are factored in, half of NHL'ers make around a million or less per year.
The median salary is around 1.6 million. That means that, at full value of their contracts (not being scratched, sent to the AHL, etc.), 50% of NHL'ers make 1.6 million or less per year. Then you have the income tax, which can be as high as 10-15% depending on where they live. Insurance comes off the top as well. Accountants and agents get their fair share of that too, and some of those charge egregious amounts. After all their costs are factored in, half of NHL'ers make around a million or less per year.
It's been a weird week in TBOT. Now we have jp58 arguing that NHL players really don't make all that much since about half only clear one million a year.
-Mike
-Mike
Two things:
One, if you're making this statement to support the players in this fiasco, it could probably be argued that most of the owners aren't rolling in as much dough as some of the richer ones are, either.
Two, I think I can carve myself out a pretty nice life with what you've described here. Frankly, even the guys making the league minimum don't have a leg to stand on if they're looking for sympathy from this cowboy.
It's be different if it was the NBA, where all the guys are being paid to act. This is hockey, though. These guys bleed for us 82 nights a year, if not more than that. I'm not arguing that they don't make a lot, I'm just saying that the owners asking them to take another 25% pay cut from that while league revenue is at an all time high is ridiculous.
Most teams aren't benefitting enough from the "All-time high" of league revenue, some to the point of being unable to make ends meet. What were you saying about median?
Do we know this for a fact? Have these teams released their financial information like they did at the last lock out? Or are some teams just poorly run?
Stop fooling yourself bro. None of these athletes play for us. Not a single one. I know, that is hard to accept. For 37 years, I didn't believe it either.
-Mike
According to the press, it's a fact. I'm sure some are poorly run (I'd say that's subjective), some just don't have the fanbase.
Yeah, that was an entirely emotional point. I still hopelessly believe some of those guys play for us and the love of the game.
Well, they've scheduled talks for Friday. Not talking about the big issue though:
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ESPN3 is showing KHL games live, then replayed later in the day since they start so early in the USA. A game replay is on right this second.
-Mike
-Mike
We were on vacation celebrating our 30th anniversary this past week and got to take in a hockey game. Scanton-Wilkes-Barre Penguins at Hershey Bears on Sunday. Bears are my favorite hockey team all-time since I grew up close to them and got to see them a lot growing up. The Bears were badly outshot, something like 28-17 but won 3-1 on the goaltending of Braden Holtby who shone last year on the playoffs for the Washington Capitals. The Giant Center is a nice arena to watch hockey in but I miss the old Hersheypark Arena. So many memories there.
