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2013 Ampeg V-4B 100W Reissue
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But seriously, they only have one model.
Wow. The new V4b is made in China? That sucks. I didn't expect USA (sorry to say) but Mexico or Korea maybe? I repeat. That sucks.
There is some very nice pics of its design . I believe it's designed in the USA . The sound clips are amazing
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I don't care for 410 cabinets at all.
If I had to worry about what is made where I would probably be sitting in my restaurant naked right now and have no car to drive home.
Ok, back to this awesome amp.....
Ok, back to this awesome amp.....
Jus' sayin' it sucks. That took it off of my GAS list. C'mon LOUD. You can do better and still make plenty of dough.
Do you honestly think production line workers will make or break an amp????
Like a minimum wage earning high school dropout from the USA is going to do a better job screwing in the pcb board than a minimum wage person from China?????
If the design is the same and the parts are the same I can't see it making one ounce of difference.
Like a minimum wage earning high school dropout from the USA is going to do a better job screwing in the pcb board than a minimum wage person from China?????
If the design is the same and the parts are the same I can't see it making one ounce of difference.
I'm sure within a year or so they will gladly offer you a heritage model and charge you double!
I don't know what the Chinese QC is for these amps. I know that I had an Ampeg BA115 MIC and the QC was terrible. I also take some issue with the idea that the Chinese stuff is of the same quality as the stuff that came out of St. Louis Music when Ampeg was made in the USA. I have 9 pieces of Ampeg gear at this time, all USA made, all have been reliable and pretty bullet proof. In summary: the Chinese Ampeg I bought sucked, the USA stuff is great. And yes, assuming that it was even an option, I would much rather have someone in the USA employed making my amp than someone in China. Unfortunately the corporate shills can actually have the things made there and shipped all of the way back to the USA and still make more money than paying an American worker. I like having stuff that is subject to more and better QC than Ampeg's stuff that was made in Viet Nam or China. I have had Korean Ampeg gear that held up well. Mexican Fender (amps) gear that held up well. Not so much with the Ampeg Chinese stuff. Sorry for the long response, but you asked.
Okay, your opinion is yours and I respect that.
I have three Ampegs, two are SLM USA and a Vietnamese SVT-VR. I love them all but I'll be playing the SVT-VR at the Hard Rock Cafe Seattle on Saturday! I have no doubt that it will perform flawlessly!!!!!
When I can afford it I will buy a new v4-b even if they are built on Mars
I have three Ampegs, two are SLM USA and a Vietnamese SVT-VR. I love them all but I'll be playing the SVT-VR at the Hard Rock Cafe Seattle on Saturday! I have no doubt that it will perform flawlessly!!!!!
When I can afford it I will buy a new v4-b even if they are built on Mars
We can agree to disagree. As for the V4B, I can afford one now, but I won't buy one.
So your sample size of one practice amp negates all chinese production?
I've owned a ton of ampeg gear, stuff built from 1960 to 2012. Does that make my anecdotal track record of zero failures with foreign made gear and two failures with american made gear better than yours? Bad QC can happen anywhere, it's not geographically limited (just see the Gibson and Rickenbacker QC threads...).
Nope, there are more examples, I had a rental Vietnamese SVTCL start smoking at a gig where a production company was providing the back line, a good friend had another Chinese made Ampeg that he bought new, had to return and took multiple repairs to get "not quite right" ever....there's more, I just don't want to belabor the point any more. Anyone that wants to hear me drone on about the examples can e-mail me. Bottom line it is my experience that there has, at least in the past, been better QC in Korea and certainly in the US than in China, at least as far as Ampeg is concerned. And yes while this is not a political forum, and I did not previously press the political point, it does leave me with a lousy feeling. What's the real costs of assembling a wooden cabinet a PC board, some power transformers caps, etc.? The assembly location more all about squeezing out every penny and less about providing a quality product. As artists, it only seems reasonable that we might just care a bit about the political implications and a little bit less about our own GAS.
IMO if the parts and design are the same, the manufacturing end of production IS the difference. Nothing is implied by that statement about where it is manufactured though. Good quality can be built anywhere. So can crap for that matter.
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