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210 cabs for metal

#21
cfsporn said:
OP, I just saw you are in Finland.

Depending on your budget, you may want to look at the Barefaced Big Twin II or Super Twin.
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Yup, that would be one of the best bets if his budget holds. I've gigged most of the "generic metal bars" in Helsinki with a single Super Twelve T without any problems. Easy to move and still moves tons of air.

EDIT: Posted at the same time :D

Bofink said:
Currently only have a small practise amp, so I'll be buying a head and cab. Total budget up to ~600-700 €.
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Scratch the above then. For that total, going used will definitely give the best bang for your buck (or euro :P). I would still look at 2x12 or 2x10 cabs rather than 4x10 for the easy lugging. If you end up buying new, you will most likely get a better deal from Thomann than from any shop in Finland. :(
 
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Bofink said:
How common are they in Finland? And how much approx do they go for used?
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Posted before I saw your budget. They are around 1000€ new and I doubt you will find anyone willing to part with one in Finland. However, if you can buy one, you won't be GASing for new cabs any time soon. :D You're welcome to come test mine if you want to compare, though (the Super Twelve is an older model). Barefaced Bass - Product Range
 
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T2k5 said:
Posted before I saw your budget. They are around 1000€ new and I doubt you will find anyone willing to part with one in Finland. However, if you can buy one, you won't be GASing for new cabs any time soon. :D You're welcome to come test mine if you want to compare, though (the Super Twelve is an older model). Barefaced Bass - Product Range
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I'll add it to my wishlist :D I'll go with a more inexpensive setup for now, while I'm still studying :)
 
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Bofink said:
I've been looking at the Warwick WCA 211 Pro cabs, as they seem good and affordable.
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Warwick also makes 4x8 cabs that weigh around 50lbs. I mainly play metal and have been lugging around 2 4x10 cabs. I don't think 2 2x10s would be enough depending on how hard your drummer plays or how loud your guitarist(s) play. I'm thinking of trying out some 4x8s. 50 lbs is better than 80 lbs.
 
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el murdoque said:
If your drummer is loud and the guitard(s) using a 4x12 or even more, 4x10 is the smallest you should go. 2x10 + 2x10 has the benefit of vertical stacking and the possibility of taking only one cab (when you're sure you get a good monitor on stage or when you're playing something else than metal).
The downside is that the total weight increases and that you will likely get two 8 ohms cabs and not be able to add another cab if your amp can't push past 4 ohms.
As stated above, in most cases, the 2x10 cabs will have a tighter mid/lower mid range but less booty - i can't say that for the Warwicks, i never played them.
I would not suggest 2 112 cabs unless you get really loud ones - these don't come cheap. When i'm playing metal, i need more than one 212. 112 might be the new 210, but only if a new cab of good quality replaces an old model. In the same productline a 112 is slightly less than a 210, just as a 212 is slightliy less than a 410. In most metal bands, you will have to put up with a drummer that hits hard and a guitar amp that is cranked, so you need the horsepower.
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Not being a metal player myself, I'm always on the outside looking in. But it seems to me that metal is an extreme genre, where more = more, and over the top is the ideal. So given the extreme volume and power required to do it right, how could a single 2x10, or even a pair of 2x10s even begin to cut it? A good 8x10 or 4x12 with a good, high-powered head - like a Mesa Boogie Titan V12 or a Gallien Krueger 2001RB - would seem to be the minimum necessary to play in the game.

MM
 
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2*210s are more than anyone needs for Metal. I've played the heaviest of heavy with a 410, and never needed more than maybe a half of my volume knob before it becomes too loud. I tried my second 410 once. Got to a quarter of my volume before the same. Plus the vertical stack of 2*210s will be an advantage for you to hear yourself better, compared to a 410.
 
#32
I play a lot of newer stuff and have Avatar 2x10's with Eminence ceramic speakers. Mine has the tweeter removed and that made it sound less bright.

A 2x10 on it's own is probably not gonna cut it, depending on the box and drivers. The metal mentality is to pack lots of speakers and make it loud. A 2x10 with a 1x15 would probably sound good, and you could just take the 1x15 to smaller shows. If you have the budget, the Neodymium 4x10's I've been hearing lately sound really good and loud.
 
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Mystic Michael said:
Not being a metal player myself, I'm always on the outside looking in. But it seems to me that metal is an extreme genre, where more = more, and over the top is the ideal. So given the extreme volume and power required to do it right, how could a single 2x10, or even a pair of 2x10s even begin to cut it? A good 8x10 or 4x12 with a good, high-powered head - like a Mesa Boogie Titan V12 or a Gallien Krueger 2001RB - would seem to be the minimum necessary to play in the game.

MM
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A single 2x10 can be tricky, but is perfectly doable if it's a good cab, especially here in Finland where the bars tend to be on the small side and big ones always have PA support. I've seen a few fellow bassists gig with 2x10s here with no issues and I've been doing fine with a single 2x12, though it is a Barefaced. I had a 300W 2x12 Laney combo before and even that worked fine. I'd say more = more only if you need to show off and block half the stage with useless clutter; more room to move around is better than a deaf audience. :D

isher1992 said:
A 2x10 with a 1x15 would probably sound good, and you could just take the 1x15 to smaller shows.
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2x 2x10 will always sound better than mixed cabs, and then you can bring a single 2x10 to small shows. :)
 
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