I've both a Shuttle 6.0 & a TH500 - both great amps. The Aggy's fantastic with a p bass but the Shuttle ain't no slouch and can be eq'd to do pretty much anything.
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2x112-rigs? Show me yours!
- Thread starter mikkejohansson
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Thanks for the input! That's definitely what I'm finding about the Shuttle... I used to have the mentality that I should be leaving the EQ as close to flat as possible (even with the active preamps on my basses), but as I've been gigging with this setup, I've been learning that EQing is okay. This rig can handle whatever I throw at it, and dialing in different sounds is FUN.
I know this is the 2x112 thread, but maybe we could derail for a moment...? Do you have a preference between those amps? Could you compare them with a little more detail?
I like the shuttle and don't NEED a new amp, but I'm a gear wh*re and part of it is that I simply WANT a TH500. lol
5sg.
I sure like having them both. They are very different. I almost sold the GB but am glad I didn't.
I'm pretty bad at describing tone. (KJung I'm not) The GB is far more like a reverence amp. It'll show you what your bass is, where the TH500 is far more a particular sound. It's a great sound but you won't get the top end that the GB can do if u dial it to.
I really like the TH500 with a p bass and others, but for my R n B & funk band the GB will give me a cleaner punchier bottom end which thru my Berg AE 's is a very sweet thing.
Very different amps. If u read thru the TH threads (particularly KJung's posts) you'll get a far better description of the Aggy than I can give.
Another reason I couldn't let go of the GB was it's aux in, headphones out etc connections. Very handy. The Aggy doesn't have these.
I'm pretty bad at describing tone. (KJung I'm not) The GB is far more like a reverence amp. It'll show you what your bass is, where the TH500 is far more a particular sound. It's a great sound but you won't get the top end that the GB can do if u dial it to.
I really like the TH500 with a p bass and others, but for my R n B & funk band the GB will give me a cleaner punchier bottom end which thru my Berg AE 's is a very sweet thing.
Very different amps. If u read thru the TH threads (particularly KJung's posts) you'll get a far better description of the Aggy than I can give.
Another reason I couldn't let go of the GB was it's aux in, headphones out etc connections. Very handy. The Aggy doesn't have these.
fEARful 12/6 +12sub, Stambaugh, Tone Hammer DI /preamp with Carvin HD1500 (now using the QSC 2402). I am not happy with the finish of the 12sub and I will sand and re-stain it eventually.
Thanks
Light weight was a big factor. I wanted to consider the Bergantino AE line, but they were discontinued. As it would be, it looks like the NX2 line is discontinued too. In any case, I'm digging all of the different 2x 112s in this thread!
FWIW, my experience with the Shuttles is that they really get going with the mid set at about 220 Hz to 270 Hz (about 8 o'clock); and slightly boosted there. Also slightly boost bass and treble. Simple EQ circuit, but that mid setting is pretty effective. It visually appears to be somewhat extreme and no where near "flat," but very effective.
IMO, hope that might help and YMMV.
Thanks for that tip, I'll give it a try at the next opportunity. You're not the first person I've heard mention getting the EQ away from flat on the Shuttle to give it more life.
I had been playing my Ampeg PF500/PF115 setup until I got the Bergs and switched back to the Shuttle. I'm used to a little bit more "character" with the PF500, so I expected to have to dial in a bit with the Shuttle. It wasn't until just recently that some little switch in my brain flipped and I realized I shouldn't be afraid of turning knobs. lol
5sg.
No, I tend not to turn knobs either and actually avoid amps where I am twisting the knobs all the time. That setting on my Shuttles is fairly permanent.
I'm a set it and forget it guy as well, so I certainly won't be turning knobs constantly... I'm just still working to find the right settings on the Shuttle to work with the Bergs. Only had them about a month now and am still dialing in.
Here's a rookie EQ'er question for you though: I assume you're not boosting all three the same amount, are you? I mean... wouldn't that be the same as leaving them flat?
5sg.
Actually that is a pretty reasonable question; and apologies to others for derailing 2x12 discussion; but, yes I do boost all three nearly the same amount to maybe 1 o'clock or 1:30. and, no, I don't believe that boosts the entire frequency spectrum, effectively making it flat. I believe each boosts or cuts a somewhat bell shaped region of the spectrum close to the control points. As to the effective width of those regions about their centers and what the specific centers are, you will need to PM one of the engineers who hangs here, such as Agedhorse from GB. GL
I, too, adjust my Shuttle 6.0 eq to suit. And I'm also pretty much a set n forget type too.
I use the suggested eq settings
Bass boost on. Mid scoop on.
Bass 12 -1 o'clock. Mid freq 8 o'clock. Mid level 2 o'clock. Treble 1 o'clock.
Sometimes I'll take the boost/scoop buttons off n play around with the eq, but for the most part these settings work beautifully with the 6.0 :thumbup:
I use the suggested eq settings
Bass boost on. Mid scoop on.
Bass 12 -1 o'clock. Mid freq 8 o'clock. Mid level 2 o'clock. Treble 1 o'clock.
Sometimes I'll take the boost/scoop buttons off n play around with the eq, but for the most part these settings work beautifully with the 6.0 :thumbup:
+1 The 9.0 as well; and I do almost the analogous thing on the 12.
IMO, a lot of cats try the Shuttle and are hesitant to simply push that Mid point down to the lower mids because it doesn't look "flat." At noon, I would also conclude the Shuttles don't have the push I prefer. Small adjustment, big difference. The "flat" thing kills me.
Back to 2x112's, I have Bergs AE212 and HD112. Currently stewing on whether I will go for another HD112 or a CN112, and then whether or not I will need the AE212 any more.
GAS = Bass player is never satisfied with good enough.
I had a hard time to cut through the mix with my Bergs HD112+HD210
the Mesas PH112 works way better for me.
the Mesas PH112 works way better for me.
I saw in one of your posts that you have a GK MB800.
That amp with an HD112 + HD210 stack would not cut through on a gig?
Wow!
[Where is Munjibunga when you need him?]
Here's what I've been rocking for a while now:
Hoping to replace the Ashdown head with a Tonehammer 500 at some point.
I love the look of this rig
