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2x15" cabs
- Thread starter Norre
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I think it comes down to taste.
Plus, it really depends which specific 2x15 model one is talking about. Both Mesa and Sunn have made more than one model of 2x15 cab.
Plus, it really depends which specific 2x15 model one is talking about. Both Mesa and Sunn have made more than one model of 2x15 cab.
That raises another question. Won't the problem be more than
just a "Ka-bump"? Dragging the split-rail cab against a hard
corner (like a stage edge or tailgate) will result in that corner
scraping the cab covering (tolex, vinyl, rat fur, whatever)
between the rail gaps. Eventually, it will wear or tear.
Nice photoshop - eventually, someone will claim that it's a real photo, though...
I can say that even after a couple years of steady gigging, the back of my PH810 still looks like this:
Glad it's surviving well.
The fact that the rail gap is right at the level of the connections plate is even more intriguing -- suggesting intention of some kind... maybe?
[Edit: Never mind, I see it's only on that particular model.]
Same here - I quit using multiple cabs atleast 5 years ago, and won't be going back... I'd much rather tilt and roll, and tilt and slide than deal with multiple trips and lifts with more than 1 cab...
- georgestrings
Yeah, the plate/rail gap orientation is different between Mesa's 810 and 215 - although the control plate is well recessed on both... I don't think there is an actual purpose for the rail gap, but it also hasn't caused me any problems, either - and I also had a well used PH610 that was the same, that I gigged the crap out of for a few years before selling it...
- georgestrings
Agreed regarding taste - purely subjective, without question... but I've played all those old Sunn 215s and all of Mesa's 215s at different times, and IMO the Sunn cabs weren't anything all that special, other than having "Sunn" on them... IMO/IME, 215s by Mesa, Berg, SWR, and even some Peaveys were all better cabs than those old Sunn cabs people like to romanticise - in other words, the "good old days" weren't all that good, regarding gear vs what's been available in the last 20 years or so...
- georgestrings
Well, as I play one of those old Sunn cabs, we have a difference of opinion on how good they are.
Though, I daresay that the newer Mesa cabs are probably easier to move than a massive 2000S cab, so they do have the advantage of convenience.
Interestingly, I've never played a single thing from SWR, head, cab, combo, whatever, that I've liked.
Though, I daresay that the newer Mesa cabs are probably easier to move than a massive 2000S cab, so they do have the advantage of convenience.
Interestingly, I've never played a single thing from SWR, head, cab, combo, whatever, that I've liked.
A lot of times I can even put my amp head on top of my cab while I roll it and so save myself another trip, too.
I can say that even after a couple years of steady gigging, the back of my PH810 still looks like this:
My god its nearly torn to shreds.
One guy who keeps the thing in his living room between gigs might not be completely representative.
Agree to disagree on the Sunn cabs...
Regarding SWR: I've never liked their amps, but have liked all their pro grade cabs I've ever played - ironicaly, it's exactly the opposite with me and G-K products...
- georgestrings
That's pretty funny - truth is, in the years I've owned it, it's probably only been in my house a few days - the rest of the time it's been on stages, or in the truck with the rest of my band's gigging backline...
- georgestrings
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HAHA!!! Anything can work if you treat it right...still gonna say those skids are a design flaw on an otherwise VERY nice cab
Nice photoshop - eventually, someone will claim that it's a real photo, though...
I can say that even after a couple years of steady gigging, the back of my PH810 still looks like this:
what the? Why is the jack plate in the most inconvenient place?
It's hard enough to reach the Player Control Network switch as it is. But right in the middle, well you will have to take you bass off, turn down the volume so it doesnt feedback etc etc.
ps Player Control Network always makes me think of Ice Cube doing a sequel to Players Club. Oh right, that movie was awful.
6jase5
Mammogram is down but I'm working manually
I had a mesa 2x15, bought a used Berg 2x15, sold the mesa. For me through my rig the berg did a better job. Not knocking the mesa. I really think that it depends on your amp and your ear. The mesa with my demeter/crest ca9 set up killed.
71svt and the berg just seems a better match for me.
71svt and the berg just seems a better match for me.
Ampeg 215e (discontinued)
Genz Benz 215b (discontinued)
Fender Pro 215 (still in production)
Mesa Powerhouse 215 (still in production)
Mesa Diesels (Discontinued)
Mesa RoadReadys (Discontinued)
Bergantino NV215 (Discontinued)
Markbass Classic 152 (Discontinued)
Duallys - Yes please.
Peavey VB 215 (In production)
EV B215M (Discontinued)
Acoustic 406 (Discontinued)
Sunn 215b (Discontinued)
Ampeg b25b cab (Discontinued)
Ampeg v4 bass bin
SWR Big Bertha
As well as a crap load of others...Sunn, Ampegs, Acoustic, Peavey, Fender etc. Why arent more in production? Smaller and lighter is the trend I guess. while custom cabs can achieve this the price is high! I need to get my hands on a used 215 to match with my v4b
Genz Benz 215b (discontinued)
Fender Pro 215 (still in production)
Mesa Powerhouse 215 (still in production)
Mesa Diesels (Discontinued)
Mesa RoadReadys (Discontinued)
Bergantino NV215 (Discontinued)
Markbass Classic 152 (Discontinued)
Duallys - Yes please.
Peavey VB 215 (In production)
EV B215M (Discontinued)
Acoustic 406 (Discontinued)
Sunn 215b (Discontinued)
Ampeg b25b cab (Discontinued)
Ampeg v4 bass bin
SWR Big Bertha
As well as a crap load of others...Sunn, Ampegs, Acoustic, Peavey, Fender etc. Why arent more in production? Smaller and lighter is the trend I guess. while custom cabs can achieve this the price is high! I need to get my hands on a used 215 to match with my v4b
