Naw, well City blocks...maybe
thanx for the kind words.
No, I use this instead:
6 x 15" JBL K-140s combo.
Apologies for the cell phone pix, i think it twas a 1G phone!
Caution! Sound levels in front of this cab(s) can exceed 120 dB
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2x15" cabs
- Thread starter Norre
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Caution! Sound levels in front of this cab(s) can exceed 120 dB
120 db?
Can do that with a single cab, and hey it has two 15" speakers in it as well!
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Can do that with a single cab, and hey it has two 15" speakers in it as well!
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Any decent condition OEM Sunn 200S with a pair of functional JBL D-140's can easily hit 120dB SPL with any decent 150-200 watt tube amp.
It was intended as a paraphrase of the warnings on old acoustic cabs, though I do wonder what the highest SPL such a setup is capable of...
Any decent condition OEM Sunn 200S with a pair of functional JBL D-140's can easily hit 120dB SPL with any decent 150-200 watt tube amp.
+1
Its really that +130db range that is difficult to achieve for any single cab.
This depends on the frequency range you are talking about. At 2,000 hz you get pretty dang loud with those JBL's. At 40 hz, not so much.
I love my 2000S cab, but admittedly in terms of size/weight vs. performance, modern gear can outdo it. Though for the tone I like, so far I have never played through a better cab. It does get obscenely, outrageously loud, too. It just weighs a ton.
I'd rather this didn't become a Sunn vs. Mesa argument, because I like both brands very much. In fact, while my cab is a Sunn, my amp is a Mesa D-180. If I had more money, I'd be eager for those new Mesa tube amps to come out, too, because Mesa makes great gear, and they're relatively local to me, so that's pretty nice as well.
I'd rather this didn't become a Sunn vs. Mesa argument, because I like both brands very much. In fact, while my cab is a Sunn, my amp is a Mesa D-180. If I had more money, I'd be eager for those new Mesa tube amps to come out, too, because Mesa makes great gear, and they're relatively local to me, so that's pretty nice as well.
You mean that is not a real photo?!
I agree it comes down to personal preference. What is good for one may or may not be good for the next. It's pretty much the same for all gear and basses. I have a Mesa PH 2x15 and love it!
Apologies to anyone offended. Mesa Boogie makes outstanding gear. In fact I used my guitarist's Mesa Mk II(4 x 6L6) atop one of my Sunn 200S Cabinets. Results as expected. Sounded Fantastic. So Sir Paul Obviously likes 'em too. No bashing by me. Still kinda want a Mesa Boogie Bassbuster in a head case. Dig the Bassist of HIM, another Finnish bassist using Mesa. No body is ever sorry they bought QUALITY gear, and Mesa certainly is Quality Gear IMHO. Would love to hear that M-180 into any of my cabinets.
Peace and Happiness to All
6 JBL K-140's driven by 2 Sunn Coliseums nets around 133 dB SPL.
Now how loud do we really need to play?
prolly sufficient I'd say!
Now how loud do we really need to play?
prolly sufficient I'd say!
Thats right around where I sit with my rig, and as you know, sometimes you need to be that loud.
Yep, sometimes you have to carry the room or it's outside.
At that time you need to DOMINATE. Now that I am older I try to consider stage volume, the mix and be a good team player.
Sometimes though a deaf loud guitarist just needs to be put in his place. That's where cone area and watts really matter. Make the rubble bounce. Punish him.
At that time you need to DOMINATE. Now that I am older I try to consider stage volume, the mix and be a good team player.
Sometimes though a deaf loud guitarist just needs to be put in his place. That's where cone area and watts really matter. Make the rubble bounce. Punish him.
Yep, sometimes you have to carry the room or it's outside.
At that time you need to DOMINATE. Now that I am older I try to consider stage volume, the mix and be a good team player.
Sometimes though a deaf loud guitarist just needs to be put in his place. That's where cone area and watts really matter. Make the rubble bounce. Punish him.
+1,000
I have volume knob, I dont have to use crushing volume all the time. That said carrying the big gun has very little down sides.
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Almost got heated for a second there 
In the case of the Dually, greenboy was addressing a shared love and romance for the cool vintage gear...we've spoken about it many times. LOVE K140's, E130's, EVL's, and the classic 215 cabs, which were the inspiration for the Dually.
That being said, we feel it is an improvement...a Faital 15PR400 reminds me of the classic 15's of old, but they go much louder and lower. Loaded into a Dually enclosure you get way more lows and way more clarity in a cab the weighs around 60 lbs. I would consider that an improvement
None of this was to imply that the old Sunn rigs weren't awesome...I think they're cool as anything.
In the case of the Dually, greenboy was addressing a shared love and romance for the cool vintage gear...we've spoken about it many times. LOVE K140's, E130's, EVL's, and the classic 215 cabs, which were the inspiration for the Dually.
That being said, we feel it is an improvement...a Faital 15PR400 reminds me of the classic 15's of old, but they go much louder and lower. Loaded into a Dually enclosure you get way more lows and way more clarity in a cab the weighs around 60 lbs. I would consider that an improvement
None of this was to imply that the old Sunn rigs weren't awesome...I think they're cool as anything.
Apologies to anyone offended. Mesa Boogie makes outstanding gear. In fact I used my guitarist's Mesa Mk II(4 x 6L6) atop one of my Sunn 200S Cabinets. Results as expected. Sounded Fantastic. So Sir Paul Obviously likes 'em too. No bashing by me. Still kinda want a Mesa Boogie Bassbuster in a head case. Dig the Bassist of HIM, another Finnish bassist using Mesa. No body is ever sorry they bought QUALITY gear, and Mesa certainly is Quality Gear IMHO. Would love to hear that M-180 into any of my cabinets.
Peace and Happiness to All
No need to apologize, as far as I'm concerned - you never offended me... I'm sorry if it seemed as I was implying that the old Sunn stuff was junk - it's certainly very good gear, and you've got some nice stuff...
- georgestrings
Hi Georgestrings thanks for the kind words.
I am actually quite interested in the Mesa "Diesel" 2x15.
And of course the Road Ready 810 is most awesome..
My 1971 Sunn 2000S amplifier had the "hearing" warning as does my Model T. My old ACC 406N and 406W, all 2x15" had the 120 dB warning stickers as do my ACC301 "W" bins..
So yep protect the ears.
CL Peavey you bring the thunder, use the volume knob. I got tired of building my stack at gigs, assembling 2 SWR 4x10s, got an SVT 810E for the gigs where I want 10" speakers and still digging the 18" too. But a 2x15" is just so simple like putting on Levi 501, gets the job done nicely.
Now if anybody wants to invite me over to test the GB 215 dualie or a fearFul 15/15/6 I'll bring the brews.
Have a great week end.
Rock on
I am actually quite interested in the Mesa "Diesel" 2x15.
And of course the Road Ready 810 is most awesome..
My 1971 Sunn 2000S amplifier had the "hearing" warning as does my Model T. My old ACC 406N and 406W, all 2x15" had the 120 dB warning stickers as do my ACC301 "W" bins..
So yep protect the ears.
CL Peavey you bring the thunder, use the volume knob. I got tired of building my stack at gigs, assembling 2 SWR 4x10s, got an SVT 810E for the gigs where I want 10" speakers and still digging the 18" too. But a 2x15" is just so simple like putting on Levi 501, gets the job done nicely.
Now if anybody wants to invite me over to test the GB 215 dualie or a fearFul 15/15/6 I'll bring the brews.
Have a great week end.
Rock on
Low down sound (lds) is making me a 2 x 15 ultra light cab with faital 15pr400's for $699, if you are cool with ceramic drivers I'm sure they will build you one for less than $600.
Check the LDS club thread for very happy customers. I do believe they have been building bass cabs for a very long time. I've a 15/6 style cab that is quite light - easy to one hand carry and gets the job done.
