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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

#321
hey mr moderator: i need to update my stuff. just got a wonderlove #123 and a proton #683 to go with my pwnzor frommel #10. I had a gr2 which I loved, but the cool blue/purple fade was calling me.........I the wonderlove kicks butt
 
#322
Jman2089 said:
hey mr moderator: i need to update my stuff. just got a wonderlove #123 and a proton #683 to go with my pwnzor frommel #10. I had a gr2 which I loved, but the cool blue/purple fade was calling me.........I the wonderlove kicks butt
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Aren't you tired of the pwnzor? Theres so many better compressors...I'll take it
 
#323
Ha, nope the pwnzor stays on "all the gig long days". Really does a great job of taming the peaks and valleys on different songs. I play in a horn band (ewf, top). It really helps when I kick in the mrx octave.
 
#324
Just wanted to say that I'm totally with Spencer on the tone shaping aspects of the PWN. I like to think I've really improved my dynamic control as of late, and I've never felt a huge need to compress as a "tool" but more of a preference.

My PWN is set with a very low ratio, pretty damn quick attack (barely above the minimum) and a moderately fast release. Most people can't tell a difference, and sometimes I try to convince myself I don't either. Usually it's the next session where I turn it on and go YAYYYY.

Just a touch of thud in the punch of the strings, a bell like quality to the highs, and a tiny (I mean TINY) amount of "flop" to my lowest few notes on the B while slightly taming some of the boom. Call me weird, but I like that slight bit of "wuh-wuh-wuh" when the string vibrates when I go super low.
 
#325
enjoi1018 said:
Just wanted to say that I'm totally with Spencer on the tone shaping aspects of the PWN. I like to think I've really improved my dynamic control as of late, and I've never felt a huge need to compress as a "tool" but more of a preference.

My PWN is set with a very low ratio, pretty damn quick attack (barely above the minimum) and a moderately fast release. Most people can't tell a difference, and sometimes I try to convince myself I don't either. Usually it's the next session where I turn it on and go YAYYYY.

Just a touch of thud in the punch of the strings, a bell like quality to the highs, and a tiny (I mean TINY) amount of "flop" to my lowest few notes on the B while slightly taming some of the boom. Call me weird, but I like that slight bit of "wuh-wuh-wuh" when the string vibrates when I go super low.
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Yea, if you agree with him, you should sell it ; )
 
#326
I am probably one of those that supposedly don't understand compressors since I have said I don't primarily want tone shaping but mainly some evening out of levels. So I'll have to disagree a bit, there's a difference between tone shaping and more transparent amplitude shaping in my opinion. Some compressors impose a sound, for instance a warmer/fatter sound, while some don't change the tone noticeably. Of course there will be an effect on attack etc and thus some change in frequency content, but to me a transparent compressor is mainly about amplitude shaping, not about coloring the sound.
 
#327
FretNoMore said:
I am probably one of those that supposedly don't understand compressors since I have said I don't primarily want tone shaping but mainly some evening out of levels. So I'll have to disagree a bit, there's a difference between tone shaping and more transparent amplitude shaping in my opinion. Some compressors impose a sound, for instance a warmer/fatter sound, while some don't change the tone noticeably. Of course there will be an effect on attack etc and thus some change in frequency content, but to me a transparent compressor is mainly about amplitude shaping, not about coloring the sound.
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Shaping the amplitude envelope is what colors the sound. I'm also not a big fan of the idea of "transparent" effects somehow being preferable - they're called "effects" for a reason!
 
#329
Transparent doesn't mean it does nothing. If you like the compressor to change the tone, great, though personally I prefer less tone change so the sound is mostly the same when I bypass the compressor. Larger tonal changes I'd rather make using my EQ pedal. One function per pedal, makes it more controllable as I see it.

To each their own.
 
#330
FretNoMore said:
Transparent doesn't mean it does nothing. If you like the compressor to change the tone, great, though personally I prefer less tone change so the sound is mostly the same when I bypass the compressor. Larger tonal changes I'd rather make using my EQ pedal. One function per pedal, makes it more controllable as I see it.

To each their own.
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A compressor by itself doesn't change the EQ curve (although some compressors have added EQ knobs) - it's just an automatic volume control. Reshaping the amplitude envelope will change your tone without altering the EQ curve.
 
#334
Okay so I picked up an Enabler and i have to be honest i was VERY underwhelmed. So much so that i put it up for sale straight away.

Now having read some posts in the this and the other thread i may have been hasty. From what i read its not going to give massive tone shaping but enhance what you've got. I also found the amount of gain available confusing as i'm used to putting gain knobs at about one o'clock and i'm good to go. not with the enabler!

think i need to spend more time with this understated box of tricks maybe?
 
#335
sk8 said:
Okay so I picked up an Enabler and i have to be honest i was VERY underwhelmed. So much so that i put it up for sale straight away.

Now having read some posts in the this and the other thread i may have been hasty. From what i read its not going to give massive tone shaping but enhance what you've got. I also found the amount of gain available confusing as i'm used to putting gain knobs at about one o'clock and i'm good to go. not with the enabler!

think i need to spend more time with this understated box of tricks maybe?
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Or you could sell it my way... :-)
 
#336
the main reason I want an Enabler is for the headphone amp/aux input option (GREAT for practicing). The clean DI and EQ is a nice bonus because it can replace my Paradriver (I'm only using it for EQ anyway...).
 
#337
The big selling point to me was the enhancement of tone I already had. I HATE plugging my bass into something that completely changes the way it feels and sounds to me. I can bump the low mids on my pbass and it doesn't change the character at all. I love my enabler!
 
#338
sk8 said:
Okay so I picked up an Enabler and i have to be honest i was VERY underwhelmed. So much so that i put it up for sale straight away.

Now having read some posts in the this and the other thread i may have been hasty. From what i read its not going to give massive tone shaping but enhance what you've got. I also found the amount of gain available confusing as i'm used to putting gain knobs at about one o'clock and i'm good to go. not with the enabler!

think i need to spend more time with this understated box of tricks maybe?
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I recommend starting with the gain at zero. There is a disgusting amount of gain on tap so I find I usually don't get it much above 9 o'clock. I also keep most of the EQ controls close to noon - it's designed to give subtle adjustments to the far ends of the spectrum, which is why the bass is pretty low and the treble is pretty high.
 
#339
Spencer! said:
I recommend starting with the gain at zero. There is a disgusting amount of gain on tap so I find I usually don't get it much above 9 o'clock. I also keep most of the EQ controls close to noon - it's designed to give subtle adjustments to the far ends of the spectrum, which is why the bass is pretty low and the treble is pretty high.
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Cheers Spencer. I shall do that :)
 

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