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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

#7,381
mouthmw said:
I was comparing my Octabvre MKIII to an OC5 I borrowed (and an OC2 clone I have) a few days ago.

The OC5 is almost spot on tone wise with the OC2, and has a bit more volume on tap. Latency is great, almost instant, I couldn't really feel the difference to be honest. Didn't care much for the +1 octaves and the poly mode, but I was never really into POG tones either.

Octabvre MKIII doesn't do an exact OC2 tone (with the tone knob fully rolled off and Tim switch on). It doesn't do that "hollow" thing, it's fuller and has more mids, but also feels tighter in the low end compared to OC5/OC2. Turning the tone control up brings even more harmonic content, so it goes even further away from the OC2-like tones. It is LOUDER than either OC2 and OC5, for sure, and has more volume on tap.

Tracking on both OC5 and Octabvre was excellent. OC5 seemed to hold notes longer better, but did seem to glitch out in places where my Octabvre wouldn't. Both were great with tracking though, and it's just a small technique adjustment.

So, if you're looking for that exact OC2 tone, Octabvre MKIII does not do that. I however, prefer it, it feels meatier, more pronounced and has a character of its own. Still the best analog octaver to me.
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Ive had a few Japanese OC-2s & Mu-Tron Octave Dividers in the past & compared them to the Octabvre mkii, Mini, & mkiii.

Of the 3leafs, the mkii was my favorite & the one I still own & while it isn't an exact clone of either I think the mkii sounds better than the OC-2 & Mu-Tron which both have a significant volume drop when activated.

The mkii & Mini have a thick & creamy tone that I felt the mkiii lacked but no matter which iteration of the Octabvre you get, they are quality octavers, probably the best on the market.
 
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#7,382
PWolverine said:
This is simply the Slippery Slope Fallacy. There is no evidence other than speculation about what will happen in the future. May as well say "well my psychic told me...". Imagine if the sky was going to fall on our heads tomorrow. You wouldn't be able to play bass, and Asterix won't be there to save you. :)
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The biggest predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
 
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MisticoRitualista said:
The mkii & Mini have a thick & creamy tone that I felt the mkiii lacked but no matter which iteration of the Octabvre you get, they are quality octavers, probably the best on the market.
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That’s what I love about mkiii. I’m a mids guy so I love how it’s strong in the mids, articulate and lean in the low end. It works great in the mix IMO.

There’s something undoubtedly addicting about the smooth OC2 tone though, and I totally get why some people want that exact tone, or why someone would prefer a smoother sounding Octabvre.
 
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mouthmw said:
That’s what I love about mkiii. I’m a mids guy so I love how it’s strong in the mids, articulate and lean in the low end. It works great in the mix IMO.

There’s something undoubtedly addicting about the smooth OC2 tone though, and I totally get why some people want that exact tone, or why someone would prefer a smoother sounding Octabvre.
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I preferred the sound of the clean/octave blend on the mkiii over the others which may be on account of the accentuated midrange you mention
 
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mouthmw said:
That’s what I love about mkiii. I’m a mids guy so I love how it’s strong in the mids, articulate and lean in the low end. It works great in the mix IMO.

There’s something undoubtedly addicting about the smooth OC2 tone though, and I totally get why some people want that exact tone, or why someone would prefer a smoother sounding Octabvre.
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For sure. The MKII is my favorite, but I love the way that the MKIII's midrange information feeds dirt and filters downstream in the signal chain.
 
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FYI - if you like that mid-forward sound, don't sleep on the Aguilar Octamizer. I have that and the Octabvre Mini, and I would take either one. I think the Octamizer is killer as an analog octave down that is not a direct OC-2 descendant. It's got some really mid-forward character when you roll the octave tone up. That mid character and the inherent 'growl' of the octave tone make it cut really well in a mix.
 
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#7,389
3toes said:
The biggest predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
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Tell me you don't understand what the slippery slope fallacy is, without telling me you didn't understand what the slippery slope fallacy is. Here is Wikipedia to help you out.

Slippery slope - Wikipedia

Though, I guess, by your own statement, people can't change? And i'll reiterate, these predictions are as good as asking a psychic to tell you what you need to hear - but a psychic probably has more experience. :)
 
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PWolverine said:
Tell me you don't understand what the slippery slope fallacy is, without telling me you didn't understand what the slippery slope fallacy is. Here is Wikipedia to help you out.

Slippery slope - Wikipedia

Though, I guess, by your own statement, people can't change? And i'll reiterate, these predictions are as good as asking a psychic to tell you what you need to hear - but a psychic probably has more experience. :)
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apart from being unnecessarily condescending, this post has to be one of the silliest things I’ve read today. :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
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never-enough said:
apart from being unnecessarily condescending, this post has to be one of the silliest things I’ve read today.
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I didn't think it was unnecessarily condescending, but i'm over responding to the negativity in this thread - it is just a complete waste of time.

I'll leave those types of posts with the (I believe) Australian saying that some people here need to take a spoonful of cement...
 
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Grahams Groove said:
FYI - if you like that mid-forward sound, don't sleep on the Aguilar Octamizer. I have that and the Octabvre Mini, and I would take either one. I think the Octamizer is killer as an analog octave down that is not a direct OC-2 descendant. It's got some really mid-forward character when you roll the octave tone up. That mid character and the inherent 'growl' of the octave tone make it cut really well in a mix.
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But why get one of those? It's too practical, affordable and easy to attain! Haha
 
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mouthmw said:
I was comparing my Octabvre MKIII to an OC5 I borrowed (and an OC2 clone I have) a few days ago.

The OC5 is almost spot on tone wise with the OC2, and has a bit more volume on tap. Latency is great, almost instant, I couldn't really feel the difference to be honest. Didn't care much for the +1 octaves and the poly mode, but I was never really into POG tones either.

Octabvre MKIII doesn't do an exact OC2 tone (with the tone knob fully rolled off and Tim switch on). It doesn't do that "hollow" thing, it's fuller and has more mids, but also feels tighter in the low end compared to OC5/OC2. Turning the tone control up brings even more harmonic content, so it goes even further away from the OC2-like tones. It is LOUDER than either OC2 and OC5, for sure, and has more volume on tap.

Tracking on both OC5 and Octabvre was excellent. OC5 seemed to hold notes longer better, but did seem to glitch out in places where my Octabvre wouldn't. Both were great with tracking though, and it's just a small technique adjustment.

So, if you're looking for that exact OC2 tone, Octabvre MKIII does not do that. I however, prefer it, it feels meatier, more pronounced and has a character of its own. Still the best analog octaver to me.
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Seconding the OC-5. Does the OC-2 tone pretty well and also has a lot of other things to work with if you like the polyphonic octaves (though the octave up sound leaves... a lot to be desired).
 
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“There is no evidence other than speculation about what will happen in the future.“

how exactly would you like someone to provide evidence for what will happen in the future? C’mon man.
This hardly needs to be said.

PWolverine said:
I didn't think it was unnecessarily condescending, but i'm over responding to the negativity in this thread - it is just a complete waste of time...
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The “slippery slope fallacy” is literally nothing other than a fancy way to discredit a perfectly reasonable line of logical thinking…
Logic being, “if this, then that”
There are in actuality many things that constitute a slippery slope, and someone deciding to call said slippery slope a “slippery slope fallacy” adds no quality information to the conversation.
You might as well say “I don’t agree so you are making it up”
The image in your Wikipedia link was quite comical as many would use it as proof of that exact thing having come true but that’s a whole ‘nother topic which doesn’t need to get gotten into. :D

everyone here is just posting their thoughts and I think the majority of people are well aware that the builder gets to do whatever the hell he wants, and also that if some people want to complain they get to do that too. man’s yes whoever wants to defend anyone gets to do that as well.

Discussion forums, ya know.
If you didn’t intend it to be condescending then I guess I apologize, it came across that way to me.

what do I know, I’m just a guy that’s been in the market for an octave pedal for a while.

I can agree that people have gotten fairly worked up over a first world problem, but hey it’s a bunch of musicians and we can all be a fairly emotional bunch.

Again I apologize if I’m misreading any of this.

be well
 
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Just arrived:

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As I’ve said on TB before, the Doom 2 is the pedal that made me want to explore boutique pedals so will always be my favourite. I also think Spencer makes some of the best pedals around - the Pike Vulcan is probably the best OD I’ve used - and I can’t wait to start using these.

(In case anyone is curious, yes I have the Anima preamp, and it is excellent. I have the red module in a Fender American Deluxe jazz with Lindy Fralin stock-wound split coils and it sounds great. The Anima and Lindy Fralins have added heft, clarity and openness compared to the stock preamp and pickups).
 
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Admiral Chew said:
Just arrived:

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As I’ve said on TB before, the Doom 2 is the pedal that made me want to explore boutique pedals so will always be my favourite. I also think Spencer makes some of the best pedals around - the Pike Vulcan is probably the best OD I’ve used - and I can’t wait to start using these.

(In case anyone is curious, yes I have the Anima preamp, and it is excellent. I have the red module in a Fender American Deluxe jazz with Lindy Fralin stock-wound split coils and it sounds great. The Anima and Lindy Fralins have added heft, clarity and openness compared to the stock preamp and pickups).
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Nice! So, I have a 90's Precision Deluxe and at some point the stock electronics and pups were having issues so I had everything replaced. Went with an Aguilar OBP preamp. I've legit always been curious about the Anima. I know he's discontinued the Blue but I thought the idea of a quick swappable pre was a pretty awesome idea as well. I'd be very interested in trying the Anima in my Deluxe based off of the rave reviews but there's just a lot of things I need more than a new pre and since I can't do the swap myself I'd have to pay someone to do it so it just get's kind of pricey. I am interested though.

Of the 3leaf / Pike pedals I have had, they have all been excellent. Octabvre, Doom2, Vulcan. Would love love love to have a chance to try a PWNZR someday but very hard to find. I feel like that would be a great design to bring back as there seems to be a lot of interest in that one these days. And would LOVE to see some new designs come from Spencer...
 
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