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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

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Jmm757 said:
Ah a fellow Aussie.

Managed to bag one, used my mobile this time and the autofill helped me massively (used PC the last few times and I was too slow).

Good luck!
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Yeah I didn't have autofill, but got everything entered in less than a minute with some quick cut / paste, but still too slow. :). I'd love Apple Pay re-activated. :). It seems on par with autofill/paypal.

I'll try again in the future, but may look for alternatives in the meantime (For the Doom and Octabvre - anyone have any good suggestions?) ... though, if I am working the next day, I have decided I am not sacrificing sleep for a pedal, to be tired at work the next day that pays the bills. :)
 
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PWolverine said:
Yeah I didn't have autofill, but got everything entered in less than a minute with some quick cut / paste, but still too slow. :). I'd love Apple Pay re-activated. :). It seems on par with autofill/paypal.

I'll try again in the future, but may look for alternatives in the meantime (For the Doom and Octabvre - anyone have any good suggestions?) ... though, if I am working the next day, I have decided I am not sacrificing sleep for a pedal, to be tired at work the next day that pays the bills. :)
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Unfortunately, the Doom is pretty unique. There are some other pedals that can cop a few of the tones found in the Doom, but nothing else really does what this pedal can do especially in regards to seamlessly stacking with other pedals. The Octabvre, is also its own thing but a bit easier to reasonably copy: one side is OC2 and the other is a Mutron Octavider. You can buy an MXR VBO or BOD and an Octavider for way less than an Octabvre. Adding a blender pedal like the OBNE Signal Blender would let you blend the two tones. Certainly nowhere near as practical as the Octabvre, but it’d likely be more versatile and affordable.

I’ve owned a couple of iterations of the Octabvre over the years, and instead found the Aggie Octamizer to be my jam. There is life beyond 3Leaf :D
 
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Agree with the MXR VBO, Aguilar Octamizer, and the (newer) Mu-tron octave pedals being all great and readily available alternatives. Those three are gonna get you whatever octave tone you want.

For the Doom2, I agree with @Ricky Caboverde in that there really isn't a pedal that does the same thing. Maybe besides the original Doom/You're Doom. Which if you can find a cheap one, it can be worth it as I personally (for my playing and application) found both the Doom and Doom2 interchangeable when I owned both at the same time. But like I said that's very personal preference based.

I actually really enjoyed the original Doom when I had it in that having a wet/dry Mix knob for the fuzz section had a lot of uses. And the 2-pole lowpass tone control was very unique.
 
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never-enough said:
While obviously not the same pedal, I’ll say the Hampstead Subspace gets into the same neighborhood.
Is it the same? no.
Is it available and in the ballpark? Yes.
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Ooo, the Subspace has been on my radar for a good while, and has definitely been a temptation (post #7848). If you have personal experience with both, would you be able to sum up some top similarities/differences? :thumbsup:

Zach Rizer's demo is pretty convincing, and I also like Robin Mullarkey's demo quite a bit as well.

5sg.
 
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fivestringgecko said:
Ooo, the Subspace has been on my radar for a good while, and has definitely been a temptation (post #7848). If you have personal experience with both, would you be able to sum up some top similarities/differences? :thumbsup:

Zach Rizer's demo is pretty convincing, and I also like Robin Mullarkey's demo quite a bit as well.

5sg.
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I’ll have to put them side by side to really get into where they deviate and overlap the most sonically.
Overall though I’d have to say that the layout is one of the biggest differences. Totally different sets of controls. I think the Subspace is ultimately more versatile but it’s a lot of controls that are probably less intuitive for most people.
once you get familiar with how they work there’s a ton of great sounds hiding in there.
The Doom2 is easier to get “that sound” from, because well, that’s what it does. If you’re trying to get the Subspace to sound just like the Doom, it will take a bunch of tweaking and I’ll have to see just how close I can get.
I do think that Zachs demo does a great job (per his usual!) at showing how versatile the Subspace is.
 
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fivestringgecko said:
Ooo, the Subspace has been on my radar for a good while, and has definitely been a temptation (post #7848). If you have personal experience with both, would you be able to sum up some top similarities/differences? :thumbsup:

Zach Rizer's demo is pretty convincing, and I also like Robin Mullarkey's demo quite a bit as well.

5sg.
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I played them side by side for a bit today.
Left the settings on the doom2 alone and just tried to see how close I could get the Subspace to it.
It gets in the ballpark but I couldn’t confuse anyone in a blind taste test. I noticed that at the settings that got closest to the sound I like from the Doom2 it induced a bit of hiss from the Subspace.
Not terrible but noticeable when compared to the Doom2 which was dead quiet (the gain was up pretty high).
The Subspace sounded good but I like the way it sounds more when I’m not trying to make it sound just like the doom.
The Subspace sounded a lil more open, less tight/compressed overall.
 
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never-enough said:
I played them side by side for a bit today.
Left the settings on the doom2 alone and just tried to see how close I could get the Subspace to it.
It gets in the ballpark but I couldn’t confuse anyone in a blind taste test. I noticed that at the settings that got closest to the sound I like from the Doom2 it induced a bit of hiss from the Subspace.
Not terrible but noticeable when compared to the Doom2 which was dead quiet (the gain was up pretty high).
The Subspace sounded good but I like the way it sounds more when I’m not trying to make it kind just like the doom.
The Subspace sounded a lil more open, less tight/compressed overall.
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I've had both a Doom & a Subspace on my board for the past several months. As @never-enough said, the Subspace gets in the ball park although slightly less compressed. Definitely a difference when comparing them with no other effect in line... However that's not how I run the Doom as I go for a low gain synth sound when using it. Throw on an Octaver before and a Filter after and they're darn near indistinguishable.

The Subspace is definitely the more versatile of the two as there are so many other great sounds in that box.
 
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MikoFX said:
I've had both a Doom & a Subspace on my board for the past several months. As @never-enough said, the Subspace gets in the ball park although slightly less compressed. Definitely a difference when comparing them with no other effect in line... However that's not how I run the Doom as I go for a low gain synth sound when using it. Throw on an Octaver before and a Filter after and they're darn near indistinguishable.

The Subspace is definitely the more versatile of the two as there are so many other great sounds in that box.
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Interesting to read all of this about the Subspace, I had one from the first batch, #14 I believe, it was maybe the most versatile overdrive I've ever owned. I have no experience with the Doom 2, until Saturday when that changes, but I'll be sure to see if it sounds at all similar!
 
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stenomattia said:
The Subspace seems very interesting, based on the few reviews and videos I've just watched, for some reason I completely missed it. I'll watch out for one.

I wonder if Spencer's January "surprise" might be a new pedal altogether. It'd be great if he'd expand the lineup.
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From a sales/marketing perspective, a cool new 3Leaf pedal would be such a winning idea. Assuming it’s a quality pedal, of course, which I wouldn’t doubt for one moment.
 
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I guess Spencer is going back to charging a bit extra for the HGM? New update says cost is $22 if you email him. I got my HGM from the jade at same cost as normal so I guess that was a bit of a deal, but I do remember for the Ghost ones that he had an option on the items shop page to select the HGM for more on the web store itself. I wonder if he'll ever go back to that, would probably make his life easier lol.
 
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Jantelagen said:
Does the Subspace do the octave up sound in higher bass registers like the Doom 2?
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It doesn't have a dedicated "octave up" but I think there's something within the high gain distortion that causes some sort of octave effect. The Subspace is pretty much perfect though; you can kind of do anything with it; light crunch to blistering fuzz to pure clean boost this pedal covers it all. Also their switch system is the quietest I've ever used, doesn't feel like you're turning anything on at all, but mine never popped when engaged. Really an awesome drive pedal for any occasion
 
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