I think I might go for an Octabvre this time around. Been messing with the Doom2 on “your” setting—super fat fuzz, but quite different tonally from a muff though.
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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2
- Thread starter fivestringgecko
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Did anyone ever find out what changes the Octabvre 3.33 will have? The current Octabvre Mk. III is my octave pedal of choice, but I wish the two foot switches weren’t so close.
It's still a mystery. As far as I know, Spencer hasn't spilled the beans yet, but I doubt it entails a return to the larger enclosure format. As someone else here mentioned, the version number he gave it, i.e., Mk3.3 rather than Mk4, seems to denote some sort of enhancement to the current circuit, but doesn't really let on as to how much of a change we might expect. I wouldn't read further into Mk3.3 vs Mk3.1 other than chalking it up to his apparent fondness for repeating numbers. Check his shop: $33 and $222; and one of the bundled releases was $777, I believe. But I might be wrong--and often am
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One of the previous posts just said he had to "tweak the circuit," iirc, so who knows what that means. I like my "verdant" finish Octavbre, but it looks so dull next to the "Hi-Viz" Doom 2 and the "Neon Glow" Proton, that may be enough to make me get a new one... and no one will notice but me 
Sorry if this is a silly question, but it's my first time trying to get a 3Leaf. I just signed up for the newsletter, the last update on 3/11 mentions they might be Doom 2 available this weekend.
How does it normally work? Do we get an email in advance saying what time they go on sale, or is it a "surprise" type of thing?
How does it normally work? Do we get an email in advance saying what time they go on sale, or is it a "surprise" type of thing?
You'll get an email, most likely one or two days before the release, stating the time and date as well as the color of the ink for the batch in question.
There's no link or password needed, it usually goes on sale on a Sunday at 11am pst, and is the only thing available in the shop at that time. Since he's been releasing Dooms pretty regularly, they haven't been gone in a millisecond 
Don’t worry about missing out. His drops have been lasting at least a day.
I want to say the last batch of Doom 2s (with the three different colors) lasted almost a week, but I'd have to look back at chatter in this thread to confirm that.
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Loop OR 2 separate inputs are almost the same thing, besides how the mix knob will react.
You can still turn on any effects within the loop with the Chromatron turned off. There is a little FX Loop switch on the right of the Chromatron.
-In the UP position, it allows you to use the effects inside the loop independently, even when the Chromatron is not engaged. The Chromatron carries the input signal to the FX Loop SEND, the carries the FX Loop Return to the pedal’s main Output, totally bypassing the Chromatron’s effect. That’s my default position.
-In the DOWN position, the signal goes into the effect loop only when the Chromatron is engaged. This can be useful if you want to turn ON/OFF all the effects in the loop + the Chromatron at once (like turning ON/OFF Octaver, fuzz, and Enveloppe in 1 click. Useful for live use I guess).
The main noticeable difference between using an FX Loop OR using 2 separate inputs is the behaviour of the mix knob.
If you use a loop, the mix knob allows you to bring more dry bass in your mix.
If you use 2 separate inputs, the Mix knob will bring more wet bass in your mix.
The Chromatron’s Mix knob allows you to choose between dry bass fully CCW, and Wet bass into Enveloppe, fully CW.
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Didn't realize you could engage pedals in the loop with the Chromatron not engaged. That would work just as well and would give you the added benefit of the mix.
I'm really hoping that the Chromatron makes a come back as the trifecta has pretty much reached market saturation.
That’s exactly how it works. The Chromatron is a marvel.
Although, while I consider the routing versatility of the Chromatron is the best possible, I totally understand someone would prefer the way the Proton reacts. While the Proton is baised on the Chromatron’s circuitry, the controls are different, probably less accurate but easier to use.
No FX Loop, helas, but give the Proton a try. It sounds AMAZING too
Spencer has said that the Chromatron requires a special enclosure and the company which made them is no longer around (or something like this) and thus he hasn't re-released the Chromatron. Why he hasn't found another company to build its custom enclosure or designed the Chromatron to fit in a different enclosure I cannot say.
The last Doom 2 batch (Aurora Pink) sold out in roughly a day. I'd contend that any pedal which sells out in a day has not reached market saturation. Sure, demand has been met to an extent--the batches last more than 20 seconds--but in my analysis we cannot assert "market saturation" until the 3 Leaf Audio shop has all three pedals in stock consistently. Given how difficult it has been to get pedals from brands like 3 Leaf Audio, Broughton Audio, COG Effects, Iron Ether, etc. I get that it's easy to look at drops lasting hours or even a couple of days as reaching saturation, but taking a step back reveals a different picture.
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A while back someone on Instagram asked Spencer about Chromatrons. Judging from his response there’s still a possibility
For me, the tell is used prices and pedal scalpers. Agree not saturation. Maybe supply/demand equilibrium is a better term.
Doom2 scalpers seem to be gone but proton still has obnoxious reverb listings.
Yes, I suppose I'm defining saturation as not selling out in under an hour, which maybe isn't a proper definition of market saturation, but anyone who really wants one can find one. Also being able to get one on Reverb or Talkbass for not much over market value. There are still goofballs trying to sell them for unreasonable prices, but they don't seem to be moving.
The Chromatron on the other hand while available on Reverb isn't below $1000. I could see them getting released for about $400-$500 new, no idea what they used to go for new.
The Chromatron on the other hand while available on Reverb isn't below $1000. I could see them getting released for about $400-$500 new, no idea what they used to go for new.
Those folks are ignorant. Even at the height of the pandemic, the Proton never commanded the prices of the Doom 2 and Octabvre. Why they think someone would pay that now when several more batches of Protons have entered the market beats me.
Yes, that's a good point: I agree anyone who really wants one can find one.
Regarding the Chromatron's price:
Of course, after the website was redesigned, the online store only shows in-stock products (so no Chromatron). Also gone is the list of user manuals. That one bums me out. It was a useful guide to the feature sets of past 3 Leaf designs, clarifying how to use them and illuminating how Spencer has iterated on his circuits.
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Re: 3Leaf Manuals
I'm a habitual downloader of manuals, sometimes even for a [insert gear] I'm only thinking about getting. Unfortunately I don't have them all, but happy to share what I've got. Dropbox link here: 3Leaf Pedal Manuals.
5sg.
Chromatron
Doom 2
Enabler
GR2
Octabvre MkII
Octabvre MkIII
Proton MkI
Proton MkII
Proton MkIII
Proton MkIV
PWNZOR
Wonderlove MkII
You're Doom
I'm a habitual downloader of manuals, sometimes even for a [insert gear] I'm only thinking about getting. Unfortunately I don't have them all, but happy to share what I've got. Dropbox link here: 3Leaf Pedal Manuals.
5sg.
Chromatron
Doom 2
Enabler
GR2
Octabvre MkII
Octabvre MkIII
Proton MkI
Proton MkII
Proton MkIII
Proton MkIV
PWNZOR
Wonderlove MkII
You're Doom
