410 with a 115. Why so much hate????

[Jscriv]

So far here's the conclusion I have drawn:

It does work from time to time. But it can be a roll of the dice as whether or not it does anything you your sound.


Advertised head levels are usually in the 4ohm situation yet most cabs are 8 ohm. So for maximum funk you may wanna but the same cabinet twice

 

[Stevorebob]

I am digging the idea of stacking two 212 can though. The current acoustic neo 410 can stay in my gear room and only be played at home for all I care. I need a nice going out rig

It seems here that your planning your rig with your imagination rather than your ears. I recommend you listen to cab choices — 410, 212, 115, different brands and models, and multiples of each — before you commit to purchasing them.

 

[Lobster11]

So what's the benefit of 15? Just using alone?

Well, that's kind of the point: There isn't any reason to prefer a 1x15 over, say, a 2x10 just because it's a 1x15. All other things equal they should be equally loud, so it just comes down to choosing whichever cabinet you like the sound of. That might be a 2x10, or a 1x15, or a 1x12 or 2x12. And if you need more, just get a second matching one.

Personally, I prefer 2x10s, but not because they have any particular sound: I just like the fact that two of them make a taller stack than a pair of 1x15s, which makes it easy to hear yourself when standing in front of them.

 

[Al Kraft]

Hate is a little strong in my mind, but in IME that combination is usually less than ideal for a myriad of reasons. On the flip side, if a 410 + 115 meets your tone/voice and volume requirements, why should it matter to anyone how many speakers of various sizes are positioned in any number of cabinets?

 

[Jscriv]

It seems here that your planning your rig with your imagination rather than your ears. I recommend you listen to cab choices — 410, 212, 115, different brands and models, and multiples of each — before you commit to purchasing them.

As I said before all I have is YouTube and random opinions. Our GC stocks nothing. I have been considering taking a few hour drive to a much better store to do some sampling. I have 410 I really dig. I play through a few different 115 combo amps that I don't really love the sound. If I could go plug into an array of cabinets and heads id take my musicman and a pocket full of cash and go have an intoxicating GAS moment.

 

[FugaziBomb]

I have 410 I really dig

I would get another one of those, then. I've mixed my 410 cabs with a few other things in the past (Hartke 215, Ampeg 810, GB 212, SWR115) and the tone change wasn't as drastic as I thought it would be -- well, except for that Hartke 215, but that's a whole other story. @Stevorebob is kinda on to something, at least for me. I built my first rig on total misconception, and wasn't happy with it at all. Hell, even my rig I use these days was designed based mostly on hopes and dreams, but it's steadily evolving.

You could also (if you don't already have one) start looking into a graphic EQ or a compressor instead of a second cab all together. Both of those things can really make a drastic impact on not only your overall tone, but your ability to contour your sound to fit into any mix. That's what I use both my EQ and comp for. They've worked out great when jumping around from 3 piece nonsense punk to large jazz ensembles or reggae acts. I've had them for ages and can't imagine ever being without either of those tools again, the graphic EQ especially.

 

[Jscriv]

I would get another one of those, then. I've mixed my 410 cabs with a few other things in the past (Hartke 215, Ampeg 810, GB 212, SWR115) and the tone change wasn't as drastic as I thought it would be -- well, except for that Hartke 215, but that's a whole other story. @Stevorebob is kinda on to something, at least for me. I built my first rig on total misconception, and wasn't happy with it at all. Hell, even my rig I use these days was designed based mostly on hopes and dreams, but it's steadily evolving.

You could also (if you don't already have one) start looking into a graphic EQ or a compressor instead of a second cab all together. Both of those things can really make a drastic impact on not only your overall tone, but your ability to contour your sound to fit into any mix. That's what I use both my EQ and comp for. They've worked out great when jumping around from 3 piece nonsense punk to large jazz ensembles or reggae acts. I've had them for ages and can't imagine ever being without either of those tools again, the graphic EQ especially.

I have a compressor that I don't play with all that much. I need to get a manual on it and get to understanding it to use it to it's full potential. The cab I have is low end. Only got to try a 410 config. I'm thinking in gunna stay with it, just get nicer gear. I also have a 210 portaflex I traded an MIM jazz for. I'm so a matching brand whore. I have an old SWR head, kind of wanna see an old SWR cab under it. As per another thread of mine in gunna grab new more portable head in the future. Probably going to just stick with 10s. Seem to have plenty of thump and all the mids a ska kid could as for. Night do 210s and stack em vertical? Lots of options and ideas. Hopefully I stick the right one first

 

[Stewie]

A late addition to a much repeated thread. The pair I see most is an Ampeg SVT 15E and an Ampeg 410 HE. I know a handful of good players who use(and like) this combination. A 115 and 210 is at least as nice, but not as tall. I like tall.

 

[BogeyBass]

Its just as bad with guitarist. Your suppose to use 2 different speakes and put them in a X pattern. Dont you bass guys know anything about the right way to do bad sounding cabs. Goshhh.

Done it all man. Finally got woken up. Just find a driver that you love love. Then buy as many of those as you can possible handle.

Car analogys are annoying but still work. We use pistons for moving air in music. They use it for moving air in racing. Im thinking of doing a mixed piston engine. Lol im gonna use 2 big block piston maybe one or two from a hemi. And then for high end maybe a honda piston. Is this a good idea?

Get yourself a nice cabinet / block and fill it with 8 nice balanced matching slugs.
All done