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5-string or BEAD?

I'm debating on whether I should convert my Ibanez SR650 to BEAD or just trade it for a 5-string. I'm mostly just looking for that lower range to diversify my bass collection and so I can play heavier music.

I vote make the trade. You will still have the four string vibe covered. I found myself in a similar situation a few years back. I strung up one of my fours to BEAD. It was cool, but just felt odd to me. I pretty much decided immediately to go with a five string. Once in my possession, my little brain seemed to be able to process the extra string easier than the BEAD four string. :wacky:
 
I'm debating on whether I should convert my Ibanez SR650 to BEAD or just trade it for a 5-string. I'm mostly just looking for that lower range to diversify my bass collection and so I can play heavier music.

The biggest issue I have with trading it in is there are almost zero 5 strings on the used market where I live. I'd likely have to drive quite a ways to find a store I could trade it in.

What would yall do in this situation?
I imagine you’ll get a whole lot of conflicting answers but for me it’s been 5 strings for years now with no thought of going back to 4. I just can’t see any reason to go back.
 
One of the big reasons I'm looking into it is that right now I hate playing in C or D - it just feels so thin when you hit the root and it's so high.

This is the reason I switched to 5 strings. We were doing some soul covers and most were men’s keys that had to be transposed to female keys and the bass lines suffered badly going up a 4th in most cases and lost their power. Playing in D on the B string is so fat and mighty. I love it now and will never go back to full time 4 strings.
 
I'm gonna be "that guy". Get a D-tuner. Go for the 2-position double shot - set one to D and the other to B. Then spend some time learning how to use it. It just takes a little mental effort.

I love detuners but the double just released too much tension and the strings went flop city, I'll only go one step with those.

where you de-tune, you may already be there as-is, or have to drop-tune to a much lesser degree to keep your string tension up.

See above.

Been reading this and it got me wondering does anyone make a 4 string set up for BEAD new?
As this would have optimum scale length, proper saddles and nut.

my sandberg grand dark. 35" four string. i did the BEAD on it and a little AEAD but missed having the G. So now I'm back to EADG and a very light set of strings.
 
A 5 string bass plus only 5 semitones on the low end, with a 4 string bass tuned in BEAD you lose only 5 semitones on the high end. It's relatively a little bit, it has more to do with the "format", the hand positioning in scales and chords than with these 5 semitones. Scott Devine and Jeff Berlin, for example, don't give much importance to 5-string basses. I have a Sandberg 5 tuned BEADG, and a fretless 5 tuned in EADGC, because the difficulty to play in tune after the octave can be avoided by using another hand "format" and/or play in another region with the C string. A 4 string bass has a more comfortable neck, is lighter and for me also more beautiful. I would adapt the bass to BEAD.
 
That's sort of what I was leaning towards, I just wanted to confirm my GAS.



I'm not particularly attached to Ibanez but I do like the idea of just switching out my SR 4 string for an SR 5 string; or if I really wanted to splurge I might get an EHB.

Confirming GAS is what we do here. Get a new bass. You're welcome

Also, I had the chance to try the EHB in several flavors. If I was going to get a 5, it would most definitely be on the shortlist. Other 5's I've played were too heavy and had a fat neck. Somehow the EHB didn't feel fat at the neck, and the overall weight is really light. On the other end of the spectrum, the GSR205 is relatively cheap, and the one I played felt good. not too heavy or baseball bat neck. Where the GSR205 shines..... standard parts that are easy to mod.

If you've got money to burn.... Birdsong 5 string. You will not be upset.... If you want unique Bootlegger Ace 5. Not many people have tried the Ace 5 so idk. :unsure: Bootlegger is supposed to be coming out with a Absinthe 5 string bass too. It isn't on his site yet, but it's 2022 and supply chain is kinda a problem everywhere....
 
I already have three 4s and no 5s, I've owned one before and liked the extended range and efficiency of playing further up and down without moving my hand, but the body was gigantic and it was very heavy.

I ended up selling it because I just could not get comfortable on it no matter what I tried, so I think a smaller body 5-string would work well for me, but converting the four would be much cheaper and easier in my situation.
Hell, a set of bass strings is like $20. Buy a 5 string set and slap it on one of your basses. That's a fairly cheap way to yay-or-nay the idea. Actually, I have used 5 string sets laying around. I'll mail you a set for testing if you don't want to spend the $.
 
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The last time I owned a 5 string was over a decade ago. Recently I wanted one again as a creative tool to see if the low B would spawn any new ideas. The problem is that nowadays I prefer short scale basses, so 5-string options are limited. Also, the low B typically wants a little more length to really punch, so after doing some brainstorming, I decided to take my 32" scale frankenstrat bass and restring it BEAD. A bit of an adjustment as all of my G string notes now fall past the 5th fret on the D string (and I'm technically missing at least 4 of the very highest) but all-in-all it did the trick for me. Plus the extra 2" of the medium scale are convenient in light of the new B. So I say, go for the BEAD! If you're still wanting a 5 string afterward, you can always just get a new nut to turn the 4 back into EADG. Not too much of a hassle.

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