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5 string to use with high C instead of low B

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Originally posted by Turock
If it is only root and fifth played in unison then it is not a chord, it is a double stop. This remains true regardless of what anyone chooses to call it.

Actually, double-stop is slang. It's not offical *musical words*. Therefore, you're both wrong. :)

Now quit posting things that are off-topic stuff to my thread, Angus. I've already PMed you about this same exact thing. I've already IMed you on AIM about it also.

I'd consider checking harmony central, but their site has been rearranged and it's quite difficult to get to their reviews section... And generally after finally finding it, their reviews consist of people talking about it being a great first bass...
 
Originally posted by LeonD


What do you consider a power chord to be?

I always thought it was the root and fifth.

LeonD


Basicly what Angus said. A power chord is just a root,5th, 7th. Its taken from a root 5th 7th 3rd. chord, also known as a major chord. Also, it could be considered taked from a minor chord (removal of the flatted 3rd.). Does anyone know what a power chord is (Major, Minor, Diminished, Augmented?) just wondering.
 
Originally posted by Muttluk



A power chord is just a root,5th, 7th.

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Does anyone know what a power chord is (Major, Minor, Diminished, Augmented?) just wondering.

Actually, a power chord is just the root and fifth. As far as the type of chord, you can't determine what type by the chord alone. That's the whole quality of the power chord. It is completely ambiguous. You would have to listen to the context of the song it's being played in. You may be able to tell by what others in the band are playing or singing. But you cannot tell by the chord itself.

Regarding the comment of a power chord being weak, if you mean harmonically, I'd have to agree; it is very simple harmonically. But if you mean weak in its usefulness, I'd disagree. Millions of very good songs are played with power chords.

LeonD
 
Originally posted by Muttluk



Basicly what Angus said. A power chord is just a root,5th, 7th. Its taken from a root 5th 7th 3rd. chord, also known as a major chord. Also, it could be considered taked from a minor chord (removal of the flatted 3rd.). Does anyone know what a power chord is (Major, Minor, Diminished, Augmented?) just wondering.

A power chord is a root, 5th, and sometimes 8th (or octave) and since it doesn't have a 3rd it's neither major nor minor but can be substituted for either.

One of the reasons I think power chords are popular is that they are hollow sounding and have no real color to them. You can put tons of distortion on them and they don't mush up because they take up so little sonic space.
 
Originally posted by Angus
Which brewer9 doesn't know because he isn't a Jazz Snob and doesn't want to be a Theory Nazi, because knowing what he's talking about would ruining his ability to create music and would take all the fun away. Right? :D

Well, I guess you have a point there. I cant argue with my own posts. But if you remember too, I ended that thread by accepting that the "theory" proponents made good sense afterall.

Now I know that a two-note "chord" is actually a double-stop. Thanks.
 
I've been playing my USA Curbow Int'l Petite 5 string with a high C for a couple of years now. I have never bothered to have the nut recut to accomodate the smaller gauges, and have never had a problem. When I had Curbow drop a new preamp in the bass, and set it up, I asked him if it needed a new nut. His response was, "If it isn't a problem, don't bother." So, you don't HAVE to have a new nut to try it out.

I've been using chords on the Curbow with the TI Jazz flats, and it sounds amazing. I never liked the jazz flats with a low B, but the chords sound crisp and clear. One of the nice benefits of the high C (besides solos and chords) is simply being able to play in positions without having to shift up the neck. Personally, I prefer the way a D sounds at the 14th fret on the C than the 19th fret of the G string.

Just thought I'd share my experiences that show a different perspective on some topics from this thread.

Oh, and a power chord is not a chord. Even if you play the octave. if I play an open E, 7th fret on the A string, and the 9th fret on the G string, I'm playing three different notes, but I'm not playing a chord. So, if you are playing the root, 5th, and octave, you are still playing a glorified doublestop, and not a chord.

I liked the GBass that I tried as much as I've liked any graphite necked bass. If you like it, you should be fine with it. Peavey basses have really improved over the years, and are still fairly cheap.

Good Luck with the high C. I love my bass set up that way, and you might be able to find your voice that way, too!
 
Now! BACK ON TOPIC!

If you want to complain about music theory, go into the forum that was created for it. You're not in the proper thread for this, nor are you in the proper forum... even.

Soon I'm just gonna request a moderator closes this damned thread. It has lost it's purpose.

Thanks, Angus. I hope you're happy now that you've ruined an entire thread.
 
Originally posted by CrawlingEye


And the scale it comes from is the major pentatonic major, I believe. Either that or the Major scale.

A power chord does not "just" come from the major scale, or the pentatonic major scale, cause if you knew a simple minor scale, including the minor pentatonic, you'd realize that it still fits in a minor scale.

I'll use the key of "a" as an example, and "a" will be the root...

major pent.= a b c# e f# a (correct me if i'm wrong)
major scale = a b c# d e f# g# a (once again, correct me if i'm wrong)
minor pent. = a c d e g a
minor scale = a b c d e f g a (little shakey on this one)

and an a power chord will have

a (root) e (5th) (a)
 
Don't blame the thread being ruined on me. Nothing would've happened if you hadn't reported me to the moderators. Don't blame me.

A double-stop is the correct term, it's not slang.

No, the power chord is NOT based out of the "major pentatonic major" as you wrote it, or a major scale. It could be out of any scale that contains a 1 and a 5. There's a lot of them.

And yes, i meant harmonically weak! :D
 
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