$500 moving violation

[photogdude]

Don't do the crime, if ya can't do the time

 

[bholder]

Friendly uncle?

...a little too friendly perhaps...

 

[Callused Finger]

Okay, you win.

Apologies, I should have been more clear and posted: "$500 for a red light violation, LOL"
I think you'd win with a 24mph over posted speed limit in CA. Probably $1200+.

 

[Mike N]

Actually, when you do this, it just goes away. If they can't collect, they can't collect.

Is this something you've personally experienced? I'm having a hard time believing the fine just "goes away."

 

[wraub]

Is this something you've personally experienced? I'm having a hard time believing the fine just "goes away."

Yes. Back when I was a student, I was driving my mom's car and got popped in a school zone- serious fine.
Mom filled out the form, attested she was not the driver, no more fine.
Years later, was driving the wife's car on a quick trip to the store, and got tagged by a red light cam on a turn, much like the OP. Same issues, same results.
Again, I have relatives who have done this with the same results.

Similarly, I know people who live in gated communities who have ignored the mailed ticket, and could not be served the ticket, so were eventually not made to pay.

If you are not the driver depicted in the pic, you don't pay.

12 Tips for Beating an Arizona Photo-Enforcement Ticket

"Tip 7: This Isn't Your Grandpa's Car, It's Just Registered to Him
One of the best ways to beat photo enforcement is to drive a vehicle that's registered to someone else.

Before sending out a notice of violation, photo-enforcement workers compare the violator's face with the driver's license picture of the vehicle's registered owner. If those don't match, the city may mail a letter asking the vehicle owner to rat on the violating driver, or it may not.

If a husband drives a vehicle registered to his wife, or vice versa, the couple is nearly immune to photo enforcement. Same goes for age mismatches."

Ain't bureaucracy grand?

 

[slobake]

Apologies, I should have been more clear and posted: "$500 for a red light violation, LOL"
I think you'd win with a 24mph over posted speed limit in CA. Probably $1200+.

No worries, I was being a smart aleck. You are probably right about the $1200

 

[catcauphonic]

In these situations you gotta lawyer up. Even with a reduced fine, you could end up paying more than you would have alone because of the lawyers fee but he'll save your insurance from skyrocketing. It's a worthwhile investment.

I thought police-less camera tickets did NOT go to your insurance? Must vary by state

 

[slobake]

Yes. Back when I was a student, I was driving my mom's car and got popped in a school zone- serious fine.
Mom filled out the form, attested she was not the driver, no more fine.
Years later, was driving the wife's car on a quick trip to the store, and got tagged by a red light cam on a turn, much like the OP. Same issues, same results.
Again, I have relatives who have done this with the same results.

Similarly, I know people who live in gated communities who have ignored the mailed ticket, and could not be served the ticket, so were eventually not made to pay.

If you are not the driver depicted in the pic, you don't pay.

12 Tips for Beating an Arizona Photo-Enforcement Ticket

"Tip 7: This Isn't Your Grandpa's Car, It's Just Registered to Him
One of the best ways to beat photo enforcement is to drive a vehicle that's registered to someone else.

Before sending out a notice of violation, photo-enforcement workers compare the violator's face with the driver's license picture of the vehicle's registered owner. If those don't match, the city may mail a letter asking the vehicle owner to rat on the violating driver, or it may not.

If a husband drives a vehicle registered to his wife, or vice versa, the couple is nearly immune to photo enforcement. Same goes for age mismatches."

Ain't bureaucracy grand?

Or you could wear a disguise when you drive .

 

[Gorn]

I thought police-less camera tickets did NOT go to your insurance? Must vary by state

I misread the original post. I thought slobake got pulled over, not caught on camera.

But here the fine is eighty bucks and that's it, in my experience. I don't know where the $500 comes from.

 

[slobake]

I misread the original post. I thought slobake got pulled over, not caught on camera.

But here the fine is eighty bucks and that's it, in my experience. I don't know where the $500 comes from.

Greed?

 

[catcauphonic]

Yes. Back when I was a student, I was driving my mom's car and got popped in a school zone- serious fine.
Mom filled out the form, attested she was not the driver, no more fine.
Years later, was driving the wife's car on a quick trip to the store, and got tagged by a red light cam on a turn, much like the OP. Same issues, same results.
Again, I have relatives who have done this with the same results.

Similarly, I know people who live in gated communities who have ignored the mailed ticket, and could not be served the ticket, so were eventually not made to pay.

If you are not the driver depicted in the pic, you don't pay.

12 Tips for Beating an Arizona Photo-Enforcement Ticket

"Tip 7: This Isn't Your Grandpa's Car, It's Just Registered to Him
One of the best ways to beat photo enforcement is to drive a vehicle that's registered to someone else.

Before sending out a notice of violation, photo-enforcement workers compare the violator's face with the driver's license picture of the vehicle's registered owner. If those don't match, the city may mail a letter asking the vehicle owner to rat on the violating driver, or it may not.

If a husband drives a vehicle registered to his wife, or vice versa, the couple is nearly immune to photo enforcement. Same goes for age mismatches."

Ain't bureaucracy grand?

In CA they get a photo of the driver as well as the license plate. Here in WA state, it's just the plate ... so I don't know if claiming it's not you works. Worth a try, though ... those fees are redonkulous The punishment far outweighs the crime, IMO. And 'they' ought to be jailed themselves for shortening the yellows in order to serve more tickets (if that is indeed the case!)

 

[Stdjazz4]

Greed?

The Government only does this for your own safety and for the betterment of the community.

 

[bholder]

In CA they get a photo of the driver as well as the license plate. Here in WA state, it's just the plate ... so I don't know if claiming it's not you works. Worth a try, though ... those fees are redonkulous The punishment far outweighs the crime, IMO. And 'they' ought to be jailed themselves for shortening the yellows in order to serve more tickets (if that is indeed the case!)

There used to be yellow lights around here that were far too short considering the necessary stopping distance given the speed limit - someone contested and got out of a ticket, and there are fewer such lights around here (for now, at least).

 

[wraub]

Or you could wear a disguise when you drive .

Actually, if your face is obscured (by a hat, a drink cup, etc.) they usually don't even send the ticket.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Friendly uncle?

Folding Umbrella

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Actually, if your face is obscured (by a hat, a drink cup, etc.) they usually don't even send the ticket.

Didn't work for me. I even went in. They said, "Nope, obviously you. Pay up."

 

[ONYX]

Didn't work for me. I even went in. They said, "Nope, obviously you. Pay up."

Next time, try this:

 

[slobake]

Thanks to @Gravedigger Dav and @ONYX for making me laugh ^

 

[MJ5150]

So if you break a traffic law and there is video evidence from a traffic camera to prove it, but you were in a vehicle registered to someone else, the feeling among some here is you don't have to pay?

-Mike

 

[ONYX]

Thanks to @Gravedigger Dav and @ONYX for making me laugh ^

Glad to be of assistance. BTW--sorry to hear about your $500 BS money grab. That's 250 burritos that'll just end up in someone else's frerigerator.