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610's and 810's. Who has them and REALLY needs them?

#21
I use a 4x12 myself, have done for a while. I am definitely a big cab kinda person.
But it's not needed at all, its a preference.

I've seen acts play festivals using tiny 15w combo's (b15's) and go just fine, so I don't believe you need to have a mountain of amp or cab provided the venues' foldbacks work okay.
 
#23
Haven't owned an 8x10 before, but I had a 2x15 (trying to buy it back too) and there is just something about the big cabs that sets them apart from the others. That extra room inside just adds to the vibe, almost like it's collectively deeper than if the two cabs were separate. I realize this is likely the placebo effect, but whatever, I'm happy and I know it :p
 
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#25
I have a Berg NV610 that goes out about 10% of the time. Usually for open air/outdoor gigs where more drivers really help, or when the venue is 150+ -ish and/or PA is only for vocals. Otherwise its a CN212, even when I get DI'd into the FOH. Both sound great and I never regret having the bigger cab to cover those gigs where I need more umph.
 
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I traded a Fender MIA Jazz for an Ampeg 610 a month ago. I got it because my Ampeg 810 is too big for some gigs, but I feel the SWR 410 might not be enough at times. I play with two high gain guitarists so I always want to make sure I'm punching thru.
I traded the Jazz for the 610 and let it sit for a good couple of weeks until I actually moved it to the practice room. I finally saw thru the screen in the daylight and noticed that it's ported! LOL. I had no idea. It does hit pretty hard and I find it just as loud as the 810 (sealed).

I debated on the GK412, and building a Greenboy 1515/66. It's still in the air, but I may sell a cab or two and look into another just to see what I like. It's nice having all of them but I really just need a couple to cover various venue sizes.
I do find the 610 way easier to move around than the 810. And since it hits pretty hard, it's my go to cab for now.
 

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#31
I had 810's in teh 80's & 90's. loved them!
downsized in the early 2000's to 410's, and they didn't have enough balls for metal.

did the 215's, 212's, etc. just didn't work for me.

Then I met Jorg Schroeder, and he build me a 412 cab that kicks out the mojo better than any 810 I've owned.
And it fits in the minivan!

I still use 810's when they are backlined, and I enjoy it, as it is different than my usual, but the Schroeder 412 is louder and smaller and can be eq'd a bit easier when needed.
 
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Turkeypills said:
I use two 810s or an 810 plus 215 for gigs with stages large enough to fit it all. I need it. I am up against two plexi leads and two jcm2000 amps, one with two Mesa 412s and the other with two Marshall 412s.
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That sounds like a nightmare to me. Seriously. Like the band I'll be forced to play with when I end up in hell. No earplugs, just facing multiple dreaded marshal stacks (again!).... <shiver>....
 
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I recall reading somewhere about cabs with multiple drivers being able to couple and project better than a rig with just one or two drivers (Other things being as equal as possible like SPL, frequency response, etc). Could be misinformation, but it would be helpful if some of the engineers could jump in on that.
 
#36
If that's the feeling we invoke in our crowd, then we are doing our jobs proper. We are a doom oriented group, probably the loudest band in St. Louis. If not then one of the loudest. Thanks for the compliment.

Small rigs are full stacks and a single 810 or 215 depending on the stage. I use a 4 pro either stereo for big rigs or bridged for small rigs. But soon I'll be running dual Dually cabs.

We opened for a band called Jucifer that made our rigs look tiny. It's a duo who have been on tour for the last 20 plus years. I counted no less than 80 drivers but it could have been as many as 87. This was on the smallest stage that I have ever played on.
 
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I was in my favorite New and Used Music store and they had the Hartke 810 for $699. I had just bought the Hartke LH1000 and the Hartke 115 hydrive and was saving money for the hydrive 410. I went home, grabbed my LH1000 and bass and went back to the New and Used Music store to test drive that 810. It was monstrous! I loved it but reality was hauling that beast, and the fact that I didn't need that much power. But I gotta tell you that it sounded incredibly good. The desk guys kicked me out after a good ten minutes. Didn't realize I was rattling their glass counters!
 
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SanDiegoHarry said:
That sounds like a nightmare to me. Seriously. Like the band I'll be forced to play with when I end up in hell. No earplugs, just facing multiple dreaded marshal stacks (again!).... <shiver>....
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I hear you! For several years I played with 2 guitarists; 12-16 Marshall 12's! Never say never, but I now look for the guitarists with the single 12's with 15-30 tube watts.
 
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