810 cabinet on its side. Any reason?

[Killing Floor]

If your boots were cool enough you could go-go on top of it.

 

[Zooberwerx]

Heavy metal, low frequencies are heavy. They're closer to the ground. Gravity.

This is why you should rotate your drivers every 6 months…promotes evenness of wear.

Riis

 

[Jebberz]

Saw this on a gig, the 810 was perfectly sized to fit under the drum riser.

 

[Lobster11]

In the bigger picture, it may make less difference than some here suggest. Especially when standing 10’ in front.

But how about 10' in front but off to the side. Isn't it true that the horizontal dispersion would be better (all other things equal) with the cab vertical? (If not, please correct me!)

 

[agedhorse]

But how about 10' in front but off to the side. Isn't it true that the horizontal dispersion would be better (all other things equal) with the cab vertical? (If not, please correct me!)

Maybe, maybe not. In reality, it may not matter much.

 

[Chickenwheels]

- Easier to get the SVT on top.
- A more laidback stage vibe.
- Roadies.
- Gigs I’ve seen this done were Sheryl Crow and The Bangles. Which means nothing.

 

[micguy]

Standing up, an SVT head takes up all the space on top of the cab. On its side, there’s room to put your beer there.

On a crowded stage, it also leaves less space for guitar amps, so….you can hear yourself.

 

[Aidenn7]

Usually a staging reason.. Other than that most set them up how the can hear them the best

 

[higain617]

It becomes a catwalk for choreography as long as you avoid the SVT head.

 

[Johnny Fingers]

Obviously that’s what the stage manager wants. Can’t believe it is the bass player’s choice. But then again, who knows?

 

[Chicken Wing]

Dave from the war on drugs is doing this. He said in their rig rundown it was for lighting purposes.

 

[ThisBass]

Sometimes musicians are inclined to do things where arm chair engineers try hard to "comprehent"

 

[ThisBass]

Obviously that’s what the stage manager wants. Can’t believe it is the bass player’s choice. But then again, who knows?

Sometimes musicians don't ask for arm chair engineers' suggestion

 

[Chickenwheels]

Dave from the war on drugs is doing this. He said in their rig rundown it was for lighting purposes.

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Bingo.
It’s never about the player.
I’ve been asked to do stuff like this for the lighting/staging too.

 

[steveinohio]

I've thought about doing this to stack it on top of my 215 cab. It would look super sweet. Really though I have no reason to do so.

I'm also lazy.

 

[agedhorse]

Note that the cabinet is sitting on a 1 foot tall riser, and he has 2 heads. this makes a horizontal configuration make more sense in context.

Think about how tall that rig would be if it was stacked vertically? As it sits now, if he stands 5 feet in front of the rig, he's well within the inclusion angle for "on axis" response.

 

[agedhorse]

Bingo.
It’s never about the player.
I’ve been asked to do stuff like this for the lighting/staging too.

I don't think this is true much of the time. Often, what's good for the show is also good for the player and what's good for the player is good for the show.

I can think of a few in the round (actually closer to 3/4-arena configuration) shows I've provided sound for, this was when Bob Hope was finishing up his career doing smaller arenas. Staging was absolutely part of the consideration, and due to how the big band was set up lower profiles were beneficial to everyone because it allowed the band to see each other and the MD better. Lighting had to accommodate the band seeing the MD, the flown speakers needed to be high enough to clear sight lines AND LIGHTING, the front fills had to be low profile (I recall using a bunch of Renkus Heinz 2x6" plus 1" horn) so as not to interfere with the first few rows of the floor seats (the stage was 4 feet tall). There was also photography and video to deal with.

It's all about the bigger picture, and in most cases everybody works together to make a better show. Those who don't are quickly removed from tours like this, as tour production managers like to say... "good bass players are a dime a dozen". In fairness, they say the same thing about all players and department heads/crew.

 

[frankie5string]

I remember the bass player for Allan Parsons ran his SVT cabinet on it's side. The cabinet sat in front of a huge riser for the orchestra. To avoid having something jutting upwards in front of the riser, they ran the cabinet on its side.
Amplifiers were in a rack box beside the cabinet on the stage floor.

 

[Jeff Scott]

So that you can stack another 8x10 on top of it and UNLEASH 16 SPEAKERS WORTH OF FURY!!!!!!!!

Of course, with the two 810s side-by-side this could never happen.

As I said, it's a rare concern, but I've been on large festival stages where the amount of plywood flex seen at the provided backline was troubling. Sonically there will be no difference between two 810s placed vertically side-by-side versus two stacked on top of each other horizontally. The added 2" of height found in the latter might make a tiny difference but I doubt it would be perceptible to the player.

Or, anyone else, for that matter.

On its side ..... it also leaves less space for guitar amps, so….you can hear yourself.

Best reason!

 

[Ric5]

I see on some stages guys using an 810 cabinet on its side.

What’s the advantage or disadvantage of placing the cab like this?

well sometimes it is cool